Is that the amount you feed per meal? or the amount he gets all day? If it's all day, that's only a little more than my 37# Border Collie gets.
What I don't like about satin balls is the high sugar content.
I'd start with just adding more food period. Why not add 4-6 oz of cheap, fatty hamburger/organ meat/eggs/sardines to his current diet and see if that helps?
ETA - Also, what variety of THK do you feed? Maybe try a different one and see if that make any difference.
Thank you. That is the amount per meal. But I will definitely try just feeding him more. And I'll add some beef. For a long time my dogs were on beef but I switched to mainly chicken because they really like it and they get the bones and cartelidge, etc. Shambo was never more than 75 pounds and usually around 70. ALSO, FORGOT TO MENTION -- his stools are almost very loose and lightish brown. The vet has never been able to find anything, other than the pancreatic enzyme deficiency.
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What I don't like about satin balls is the high sugar content.
I'd start with just adding more food period. Why not add 4-6 oz of cheap, fatty hamburger/organ meat/eggs/sardines to his current diet and see if that helps?
ETA - Also, what variety of THK do you feed? Maybe try a different one and see if that make any difference.
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The wheat germ, oatmeal, dry cereal -- as far as I know, these are pretty universally recommended against for EPI dogs.
I'd like to know which THK, too, again because of grain questions.
Do you know about the recent findings that some EPI dogs do much better with added fat than used to be thought? Of course, it has to be very gradually added and should be trialed carefully if you read up on it and decide to give it a go.
Also, did he do better on the enzymes you used before?
I have some recent EPI stuff I'll find for you, including the "against grain" and "maybe add fat" issues.
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Thank you. That is the amount per meal. But I will definitely try just feeding him more. And I'll add some beef. For a long time my dogs were on beef but I switched to mainly chicken because they really like it and they get the bones and cartelidge, etc.
If you are adding beef (gradually), you will want to be careful about the calcium that you will lose if boneless beef replaces much of that RMB chicken.
Couple of questions:
What is his TLI score?
Have you had him tested for SIBO (small intestine bacterial overgrowth) by checking folate/cobalamin levels?
My EPI dog can only do well on raw meats...THK, while being an awesome product, just comes right on out of her.
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Thank you for remembering Mary Straus!
Michael, Mary Straus (DogAware) is one of the two best dog nutrition writers writing today, IMO, with the other being Lew Olson.
And yes, I hope that at least the bad effect of grains on most (almost all) EPI dogs will completely erase the thought of those Satin Balls (which I think have a very unearned good rep, anyway, but for an EPI dog .... completely contraindicated).
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