Tresa Hendrix Webboard User Reg: 05-08-2008
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What's the best way to teach "place" for the send away? Should I use a target (like a plastic lid)? Should my dog touch it with a paw or nose? Automatically down on it? Put food/toy on it?
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Tresa, there is a DVD on it at leerburg. But I have taught it with just an old mouse pad and the dog is supposed to go touch it with it's two front feet.
But I think the send away is more than touch pad. I think you got to hide toys etc at the end of the field.
The place command is also slightly different from the touch, in the sense that the dog has to know, that he is expected to be calm when in his place(I assume place is used for your dog to go to his rug or bed in the house) .
I do not reward the act of going to the bed, but staying on the bed. I will mark reward for lying down in "place" initially and if the dog gets too attentive on me , I will reward with out marking when the dog is disinterested in me. Eventually they learn to just take it easy while in place.
This gradually teaches them that "Place" means go to my bed and "SWITCH OFF" .
Here is a video of place I shot a long time back when helga was a little puppy.
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So the "place" isn't used for schutzhund then. There's no schutzhund club here unfortunately, there's not many things I can do on my own (nothing with a helper, no tracking fields). Its pretty impossible but I just really want to do schutzhund. So I guess the toy methods would be best then.
I might teach him "place" just for the hell of it. I wish I could buy more of the DVDs. Thanks for the vid..."place" is used for staying there or used for a certain position (automatic sit, down or stand)?
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Ok nevermind that I watched a Micheal Ellis clip on youtube about the send away. The only thing I could gather from it was to teach my dog to go to a target to get a reward. The rest I should figure out ok but how is it you teach them to down while going away?
A tired dog is a good dog, a trained dog is a better dog.
You train a really good down away from the send away. Like a running down at your side, while coming to you while wandering around the house. From anywhere.
It is not uncommon to have a dog blow off the down on a send away, especially at first. Some will put a long line on them and reinforce the down that way, but I would rather solidify my downs everywhere else so the dog does not even think twice about going into position when on the send away.
Also keep in mind that the "run out" part is the hardest to teach. Don't down your dog often AT ALL when practicing the send out. Like once or twice for every 50 send outs. You want a hard fast run, not a dog that is anticipating the down so they go slowly in preparation. Get the down solid away from the send out and only bring them together once in a while...
There are many ways to train the send away but One item needs to be consistent, the location of the toy/food. Pick a spot and always use the same spot to place bait. When adding distance, just move further away from that spot. Very important in the initial stages.
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Cool that makes perfect sense. Thank you both!!!
One question: if I always use the same spot how will he learn to do it anywhere else? I don't know if I can use the same spot because I use a diff place every day because of people with loose dogs and sport's teams.
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