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GSD pup not tolerating raw meat
#32988 - 04/18/2002 10:00 AM |
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I have a 15 wk old GSD pup, West German bloodline. As of a few weeks ago, I switched him and my other dog to a raw food diet.
It seems to me that the raw meat causes him to have very sguirty, continuous diarhhea.
When ever he gets this I give him a combo ofrice,canned pumpkin and cottage cheese. This binds him up right away and then as soon as I intoduce raw meat into his food the runs return.
I have experimented with this and it always seems to be the introduction of the raw meat that correlates with the onset of the diarhhea.
Is this uncommon? Is he too young for raw meat?
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Re: GSD pup not tolerating raw meat
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#32989 - 04/18/2002 11:07 AM |
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Hi Jeannette,
Can you be a bit more specific on what raw meat you're giving him? Is there bone in the meat?
Organ meat is very rich and I found that I had to introduce it at an almost painfully slow rate.
Natalie
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#32990 - 04/18/2002 11:37 AM |
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I was told the following by my Raw supplier, it holds very true.
Veggies Loosen Stool
Bone Firms Stool
As NatalieH suggests.
You may want to try poultry first and not red meat, try a chicken carcass with the bone, it may prove more firming, then try some red meat with bone ground in, if everything goes ok. But do not stick with chicken all the time, they do need red meat. I have seen this mistake before for this very problem, and what happened is an alergy built to the chicken and then they can't eat that.
They are never to young to start raw! Well unless they are like little babies on the teet.
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#32991 - 04/18/2002 01:04 PM |
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I tried chicken 1st, necks,backs,etc.....then lamb shanks,small pieces of lamb w/ soft rib pieces.....chopped beef, cubed beef, meats mixed Sojourners for roughage, no help. Only when no raw meat is in the diet does the stool firm up.
Some one recently told me that GSD's can have very sensitive stomachs, and that perhaps the young pup can not digest the meat properly(due to immature enzymes)
I tried cooking ck. livers and he did tolerate that well when mixed w/ the Sojourners and Martins k-9 Formula, whish is supposed to be an all natural, no crap added, minimally processed specialty dog food(he goes crazy for this stuu, as does my usually finick female adult)
I am getting very frustrated and am ready to throw in the towel w/ the raw meats!!
Any suggestions?Comments?
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#32992 - 04/18/2002 01:18 PM |
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Are you mixing raw with dry kibble? Mixing raw and kibble will cause loose stool because raw digests much faster than kibble and when mixed the raw ferments in the stomach because the kibble is forcing the system to digest slower.
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#32993 - 04/18/2002 01:57 PM |
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I would also try sticking to one diet for at leat a few weeks more. Things will even out. Switching around could be making the problem worse. Kibble and the raw don't mix. Seperate the meals if this is what you are going to do.
If you want to cook the food don't cook it all the way through, just give it a quick blanch in some boiling water. This kills most of the bacteria that is naturally on the meat. This could help with digestion. After a while it will no longer be necessary because the dogs system will be up to speed.
Don't anybody shoot me, but with my female she would get the runs after every veggie meal (even with more bones added) so I started adding about 1/8th of a cup of cooked oat meal. No problems after that. Just enough to add some bulk to the poop. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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#32994 - 04/18/2002 02:03 PM |
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Make sure that when you are feeding meat and kibble mixed that you do not soak the kibble for very long as this speeds it through the digestive track too fast sometimes resulting in loose stools. Have you considered the fat content of your meat? Some dogs seem to be a little more
sensitive to fat levels than others. All changes in diets should be made slowly as sometimes the change factor seems to be what sets off the diarrhea. I switched to a supposedly "
natural" kibble and could not get the stools of any dog in the kennel to firm up and when I switched back to my regular old brand everything was OK.
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#32995 - 04/18/2002 02:31 PM |
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Have you tried adding plain yogurt to his diet? It is supposed to be rich in probiotics necessary for digestion. I have a 10 week old DDR pup who is doing wonderful on the raw diet. Of course he was started on it. With the raw diet also it is recommended you go cold turkey and not give them anymore kibble whatsoever.
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#32996 - 04/18/2002 04:00 PM |
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Jeanette - here are a couple of sites that might be of interest to you in your situation
http://www.ntic.qc.ca/~alialter/htmanglais/AA2-F.htm
this girl has been feeding a natural raw foods diet to her racing siberian huskies for
years, and is very knowledgable on natural rearing and feeding
http://www.noatak.com
this is a racing sled dog kennel. They have an
on-line trial version of their diet composer software
that can be used to balance or compose a diet.
http://www.sportsvet.com
Athletic Working Dog Newsletter
Sled dog people have been feeding meat for years
and have a lot of knowledge in this area.
A lot of vets (at least in our area)are very hostile to meat and you almost want to lie to them about what you are feeding to avoid the lecture and dirty looks!
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#32997 - 04/30/2002 08:19 AM |
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As an MD, my guess is that the pup's digestive system is not yet fully mature. Try raw meat in smaller amounts.
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