 Re: 9-month-old GSD; help needed: reactivity & manners
[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
#384383 - 10/15/2013 11:57 AM |
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How to live with a dog ... bonding .... how to train basic ob ..... understanding pack structure .....
These all have to be solid before considering dog sports.
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Re: 9-month-old GSD; help needed: reactivity & manners
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Excuse me guys, but back to this for just a second...
Natalie;
A dog left alone in a crate for 11 hours was pbly conditioned to it gradually. I don't really think anyone took a green puppy and put in a crate for 10+ hours the first time and thought it would be okay.
I didn't do that either. I was ready for a long battle with the crate (it was pretty bad when he was 3 months) and when I saw how easy he took to a crate and how willingly he went in everytime I decided to try it.
But in any case, as I said, someone explained that it was a bad idea in the sense that I'm not teaching him anything. 2 hours to him is the same as 11, so all I'm doing is unnecessarily stressing his bladder.
If the time ever comes that he has to be alone for 11 hours then I will do it then. I'm not going to be doing it 'in preparation' anymore.
My job has a flexible schedule, I'm sure I can always make sure my daughter and I don't overlap.
But people that don't have this luxury shouldn't be judged.
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Re: 9-month-old GSD; help needed: reactivity & manners
[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
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"Jumped in impulsively" rings a bell here.
How to live with a dog ... how to train basic ob ..... understanding pack structure .....
These all have to be solid before considering dog sports.
?? Who said anything about sports now? I'm just saying that it's not something I'm so opposed to that it's automatically out of the question and therefore a sport trainer should also automatically be out of the question.
I don't see myself ever getting into sports but who knows. No matter what, I always wanted to find a sport trainer. I will deal with the negatives
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Re: 9-month-old GSD; help needed: reactivity & manners
[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
#384386 - 10/15/2013 12:03 PM |
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" ... therefore a sport trainer should also automatically be out of the question. "
I didn't say this.
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Re: 9-month-old GSD; help needed: reactivity & manners
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#384387 - 10/15/2013 12:07 PM |
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I'm not sure about a mal, a 2nd gsd from a good breeder I'm sure about. But again, much later 
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Re: 9-month-old GSD; help needed: reactivity & manners
[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
#384388 - 10/15/2013 12:07 PM |
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"I will get him trained, sooner or later, that I'm sure of and I will be here posting about it "
Yes. You have learned beneficial things here, including upbeat training in short session and quite a bit more. Probably more than any other webboard.
But you are absolutely right that you need one-on-one. "Living with a dog for the first time" is a major chunk of what a good companion-dog trainer can impart, being right there, than any webboard can, not being there and trying to prioritize scattershot topics.
I definitely did learn, I'm not trying to say that posting here was useless.
I learned many more things than you mentioned. Like the recall, the pulling, and there's more, not off the top of my head.
Just overall ideas too.
I'm just saying that trying to learn by posting doesn't seem productive for me, too much gets lost in the process and a lot of confusion happens.
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Re: 9-month-old GSD; help needed: reactivity & manners
[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
#384389 - 10/15/2013 12:11 PM |
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I understand.
You're right to seek one-on-one. "Living with a dog for the first time" is a major chunk of what a good companion-dog trainer can impart, being right there, than any webboard can, not being there and trying to prioritize scattershot topics.
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Re: 9-month-old GSD; help needed: reactivity & manners
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#384390 - 10/15/2013 12:09 PM |
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" ... therefore a sport trainer should also automatically be out of the question. "
I didn't say this.
Lol I know, I understand what you meant but this was my way of paraphrasing it. That's what I mean by posting not being productive in my case.
I'm not that good with communication so lots of time is spent on going in circles.
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Re: 9-month-old GSD; help needed: reactivity & manners
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#384391 - 10/15/2013 12:13 PM |
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Lol I asked to work from home today)))))
You guys scared me so much yesterday with the crating that today I couldn't make myself leave him (not in the crate, just leave him).
I had a meeting this morning and he had to stay in my daughter's room and I heard him cry. After that I couldn't make myself leave him and go to work.
I really care for my doggie, i'd never knowingly do anything to hurt him
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Re: 9-month-old GSD; help needed: reactivity & manners
[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
#384392 - 10/15/2013 12:20 PM |
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" I might actually luck out with a good trainer ... "
I wish you success in that! It can be very hard.
Finding a good pet (companion) dog trainer ... one who uses positive-reward training methods and also understands pack structure, as well as the necessity for appropriate corrections sometimes for pack issues .... this is an elusive goal, but well worth undertaking.
Trainers specializing in sports dogs, personal protection trainers, PSD trainers .... these specialties are not, IMO, always entirely compatible with training the "happy well-behaved companion dog" Steve was talking about. They occupy spheres that overlap the "happy well-behaved companion dog," but using one for a pet dog may require a pretty experienced owner to weed out what applies to his/her pet and what does not.
Nothing in any way negative about SchH/IPO/PPD/PSD trainers, of course, some of whom are equally at home with companion-dog training (think Michael Ellis, for example; Will Rambeau, for example; Ed Frawley, for example).
For me, happy well-trained pet is a specialty, and a good pet (companion) dog trainer ... one who uses positive-reward training methods and also understands pack structure, as well as the necessity for appropriate corrections sometimes for pack issues, is a trainer who is focused on what the inexperienced new owner needs. Then weeding out what doesn't apply isn't needed.
JMO!
This is excellent advice and worth re-reading! And I don't mean just for Natalie but for anyone experiencing their first dog.
Natalie, it's wonderful to have plans and goals for the future, but don't lose sight of the dog you have right now, today, and the work you and he need to do together to form a great foundation for all the wonderful dogs you will own in the future! 
I will just say one more thing about the crating issue. I wonder how many of those people who crate their dogs for 15 hours a day are willing to admit that they come home to a mess to clean up in the crate, injuries caused by the dog trying to escape from the crate, or now have a dog that has been driven half-crazy and is suffering physically and/or mentally from so much isolation and confinement.
Working out an arrangement with your daughter where one of you will be able to give him a break from the crate is going to work out so much better for all of you.
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