It's literally immediately after he eats. What I mean is, he finishes eating then walks straight outside (dog door) and makes himself vomit. He'll do it regardless of breakfast or dinner. It's like he's excited to eat, and then when he's finished he realized something isn't right and he makes himself throw up.

It's never bile. It's always just the food. Some stuff he will swallow whole, so it hasn't even changed in texture.

On some occasions he's actually eaten his vomit. Although this is rare as I watch him closely after a meal and usually bring him back into the house. However, the few times he has eaten his vomit, he didn't vomit again. I would think if he really was bothered by it then he would throw it up the second time around too.

Also, this morning he threw up a little bit of his breakfast of ground venison. He ate half of it and then went outside to vomit. He came back in and finished the rest without any problems.

I don't really know what to make of that. But, like I said, he hasn't done it with anything but red meat.

I think I will try the small incremental route. He's been able to handle red meat when I stuck a little bit in his chicken or fish. I'll try that and see if he can work his way up to eating it by itself.

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It's literally immediately after he eats. What I mean is, he finishes eating then walks straight outside (dog door) and makes himself vomit. He'll do it regardless of breakfast or dinner. It's like he's excited to eat, and then when he's finished he realized something isn't right and he makes himself throw up.

It's never bile. It's always just the food. Some stuff he will swallow whole, so it hasn't even changed in texture.

On some occasions he's actually eaten his vomit. Although this is rare as I watch him closely after a meal and usually bring him back into the house. However, the few times he has eaten his vomit, he didn't vomit again. I would think if he really was bothered by it then he would throw it up the second time around too.

Also, this morning he threw up a little bit of his breakfast of ground venison. He ate half of it and then went outside to vomit. He came back in and finished the rest without any problems.

I don't really know what to make of that. But, like I said, he hasn't done it with anything but red meat.

Ah. Well, I have to say that this is not at all uncommon, and just about any dog (unless he vomited because of actual illness, and sometimes even then) will give it another shot after it's come up once.

If he bolts a particular food very fast or in huge inhaled mouthfuls, it can come back up.

It could be that beef is very attractive to him and causes him to bolt it, or it could also be that the richness compared to poultry is doing it. (I have a senior who throws up large amounts of any rich/fatty food.)

However, none of this explains the kibble vomiting.

I'm going to sound like a broken record, I know, but I feel confident that the one-new-ingredient at a time protocol and the very gradual additions of organ meats and red meats (small amounts, slowly increased) will end the problem, or, at the very least, identify it. If a week or so following the one-at-a-time method still has the dog vomiting, I'd be thinking vet.

I'll try that and report back. Thanks!

John, I started raw a few months ago and my dog wouldnt touch beef muscle meat. He looooves tripe so I thought Id be tricky and mix some hamburger in with his tripe and get him to eat it. As expected, he went right over to it and started eating but as soon as it hit his stomach, it came right back up and he walked away from the rest of his beloved tripe.
I've since tried a few forms of beef and he simply wont touch it. I tricked him one other time and same thing, threw it all right back up.
I've just accepted the fact that beef muscle meat isn't for him and get as many other varieties of meat as I can.

Angie, I've thought about that too. I just might not be able to feed it to him. The vomiting doesn't seem to discourage him though. He's anxious to eat red meat every time I put it out. I guess I'll just keep trying and see if it comes to that.

Pork?

I've given him pork once and we was fine with it.

Last night he ate chicken without any problems and I gave him a little bit of rabbit afterward. He had no problems with it either.

So right now I'm sticking with a little bit of boiled chicken and I'm going to use it to slowly integrate raw food and red meat. So, it seems like chicken backs are best to start with when going raw, correct? I've found plenty of links on this forum to web sites that sell chicken backs, and other RMBs, for pets. However, I've got whole fryers and would rather just butcher these myself. So my question is... what constitutes the back? Should I simply cut out the bottom of the neck and the back bone? Or do I need to include more of the rib cage? If I remove the entire neck and back bone, there isn't a whole lot of meat on there. But I assume this would be OK since I would be serving it with more muscle meat.

Is this correct? Thanks!

Cool! Pork is a red meat, so there is one step towards success.

Get on YouTube and find a video on how to cut up a chicken. You'll end up with a chicken back somewhere along the way.:wink: