Kizer is one of my male GSD's he's a overly friendly 6 mmonth old male.

He jumps up on you all the time. So crazy that he snaps and latches on. I kept him for my training program and he is great. I personally have no issues with it, as he is not doing anything out of the ordinary. He only does this when he is released fromm his kennel and we are off to work! He does not bother anyone else just me!

His drives are right on the ball, and he's coming along wonderful.

What my issue is our local trainer, lipping off about it! I left Kizer with him, for a few days and he took a stick too him. and dropped him in a rough and unjust manor!

Mind you this has not changed anything with Kizer, he still keeps right on trucking.

Since I have had this issue with the other trainer who only trains for pet owner's how do I explain this situation too him?

Kizer is to be trained in Sch, and as far as I am concerned he has what it takes. But according too this trainer, the dog needs to be dropped and dropped hard. Or in other words break his spirit!

Kizer is 6 months old, a wonderful hard working individual. What am I doing wrong?

Debbie - get a remote collar and the DVD I did on REMOTE COLLAR TRAINING. Learn to use LOW LEVEL stimulation - http://leerburg.com/318.htm

Low level stimulation for jumping up is an excellent method of stopping dogs jumping without a lot of negative feed back related to the handler.

I never recommend that people allow others to train your dog. Read the article I wrote on MY PHILOSOPHY OF DOG TRAINING - you will see EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED HERE

Deanna: On the few & far between occasions I have had to dress up for, i have found it helps to buy evening clothes that can be accessorized by dog hair.

The less physical corrections with our dogs the better.
GOSH we're humans, not dogs, we can outsmart them! I think there are better ways than kneeing, hitting noses, pinching toes, scruff shakes, jerking collars, "dropping them to break their spirit (can you say ego?!)", and basically losing our patience to an animal who doesn't know what he's doing is "wrong". Teach your dog what you want.
Ed's ecollar approach & what Jackie said about teach it as a command then never asking for it is good. You can also just ask the dog to sit or down in a submissive position- can't jump while you lay down right?
For a dog who cannot obey under a distraction of other people around, put him in a crate and don't expect him not to jump. Set up a training exercise to teach obedience while others are around so he'll learn to behave around that distraction.

I am happy that I have found this forum, I felt that the other trainer was being quit off the wall.

Kizer only jumps up and acts out when he's been crated for awhile. When I walk away and ignore him, he sits and says okay I understnd. No hiting or nothing!

Ed I will be ordering a lot of you CD's. I need need more extensive training!.It's a given! Sure I have trained many dogs and worked in K-9 Security for years. I believe that No matter what I will always need more work. Not everydog is the same and I have to expect that! To be honest with you I am quit hard on myself. I expect more from me than I do from anyone else!

I do not know if that is a good thing, but I feel that I need to be the best to achieve the best in my dogs! Or at that life! Some input please!

This post is several months old, but it may help others that are reading.

After reading the above posts, I haven't seen mentioned the reason why dogs jump. In my opinion, the reason a dog jumps up is because they see you from a face to face encounter, meaning that dogs look at you thru your eyes. A dog that jumps is trying to get to your level, being your head. How many times have you seen a dog jump higher than your head when you are on your knees? It just doesnt happen unless trained for it. They know that your eyes/face/mouth is where the good and bad tones of praise or punishment come from.

This also goes back to pack order. Once a pup/dog learns that he is second to you, then and only then will he "respect" you and come to the understanding that he is not equal, therefore does not rise to your level.. Watch a pack of dogs..Those under the leader will become timid and lay underneath him.

As far as corrections go, I have and will continue to use the concept that "no 2 dogs are the same". With that being said, the knee to the chest is a great way, as well as putting pressure on the back feet of the dog when he jumps with your feet. Like anything, the amount of correction used depends on the dog, and trainer. Anything can be over done, or under done.

"With that being said, the knee to the chest is a great way,"

I disagree big time. A knee to the chest to stop a dog from jumping is very bad advice and a non training tool. Do that nonsense with a good dog and you might find yourself in a bind. JMO of course,
AL

Hey Al,
thats why we see different dogs in different levels of training at the same age..Because there are those like myself that train in such a way that explains and shows a dog what is expected,and in return expects the dog to understand after repetition, and those that...never mind.

The knee to the chest has been used and will always be used as a great tool to teach a dog. I have been to countless training facilites that have used this method with excellent results..As I have stated, anything can be over done..use some common sense.

Compulsion works, no doubt about it. A friend of mine is a yank and crank trainer, it seems like he's happy with the results, decent dogs with crappy ob. Maybe you can provide a link to some obedience videos of your dogs? or some training videos with 6 to 9 month old pups?
AL

I agree Al, that the type of training that I see at times with the yank and crank does get results, but you wont have a happy, excited dog..yes, there are rear situations where no matter how much you yank, the dog will still love you just as much..those dogs are rare..

I do have a few short clips of a few pups..How would I go about putting them on here?