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Originally posted by MattMoore
I tend to feel that if he is worth training in SchH, he better be able to withstand a correction here and there.

PUHLEESE.., the pup is only 10 weeks old. I am not against corrections but the pup still has to learn the full meaning of no and scruff shakes are a rare and important correction. Discipline and conditioning are not all about corrections, it's about behavior modification. (IE: Eat dinner in the crate, can't get to other dog=pup gets accustomed to the routine.) The pup is acting like a pup, now is the time to channel those drives.

Trey, just so there isn't a misunderstanding, I acknowledge that "your not into corporal punishment" <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> At this time in your pup's life he needs lots of your attention and guidance. And a crate! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Maggie,

so it is your contention that a 10 week old should not recieve any type of corrective action aside form being placed in a kennel?

The biggest problem most people face is that they cannot discern between a light correction that is neutral in nature, and an all out ass-kicking.

Matt, please re-read my post:

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PUHLEESE.., the pup is only 10 weeks old. I am not against corrections but the pup still has to learn the full meaning of no and scruff shakes are a rare and important correction.

This discussion is not about an adolescent or adult dog. He is very young, learning voice inflections and the like. And I never said use the crate for punishment. NEVER!

Perhaps I came across too Purely Positive and you came across too heavy handed, but I do believe at this developmental stage that the onus is on the owner to develop good habits through positive routines, re-directions and rewards. I am not adverse to a little discipline, but once again it is up to the owner not to set the pup up for failure. (and if he didn't steal that sock, hang off my pantleg and be a general pest, I wouldn't want him anyway! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> )

It's all about striking a balance.

I am struggling with what the pup is doing that is "wrong" sounds like a very normal puppy who needs to be redirected and not corrected.

The adult dog still needs to have one on one time and time alone, too.

Personally, I just would not feed two dogs in the same room. Not unless you want to face the possibility of a big vet bill.

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Originally posted by Maggie Baldino:
Perhaps I came across too Purely Positive and you came across too heavy handed,

most likely!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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Originally posted by Maggie Baldino:
I am not adverse to a little discipline, but once again it is up to the owner not to set the pup up for failure.

Agreed!!

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Originally posted by Maggie Baldino:
It's all about striking a balance.

Again, I agree!!

pay day has come and i have a create and too just make me a liar she looked at it smelled it then walked away. we put her sleeping pillow "just an old sheet" in there and she went right in there we tossed in a pigear and she is happy as a clam . my bad exp with creats was with a rescue dog that was a trip and he hated the create but this pup loves it so far and my older dog REALLY LOVES IT WHEN SHE IS IN THERE!!

and by the way we do the shaking thing with the pup she knows the word NO! and so far we have kept our cool at all times but, that was real hard. this is our first working dog and its very tring

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> You're right Trey, they will wear you out!!!!

Now that he has his crate... when you just can't take anymore he can go to his room!

You've gotten some sound advice on this thread.....so good luck!

Debbie

Way to go Trey, most of the time we sees only the bad and ugly stuff done by the dog. What makes the difference in the handler is ability to see what we as handler fail to do giving rise to the dog's action.

After reading the thread more I realise that your puppy is just 10 weeks, gosh when I replied you earlier my thoughts was 10 months all the while. Must be getting old myself <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

Agreed that the best thing to do now is to start crating them. I have 2 GSD's myself and they do play fight quite often but they only will both be let out together at the same time when I'm on duty <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> otherwise one or both of them stays crated to keep them out of trouble. At eating time the 2 never are let out at the same time. I prefer to feed them outside the crate one at a time as it helps conditioning them to be clean dogs ie. eat, shit and pee outside, inside is for lazing around and cross legging watching the birds fly by sipping cocktails <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Congrats Trey! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> If your interested in buying videos from Leerburg I would recommend 'Your puppy, 8 weeks to 8 months' and if your interested in pursuing SCH, 'Bite training puppies' and 'Drive, Focus and Grip w/ Flinks. (which is a good one to have no matter what). If your going the SAR route, then get 'Training Police/SAR Tracking dogs'. This should get you started for a bit.

See, the crate isn't a bad thing! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Way to go! -- NOW something else I noticed.

Having just spent a puppy eekend at the emergency vet due to an ingested peice of pillow foam....AND talking with someone else who had a towel eaten and had the same experience (vominting, blockage)...you may want to consider leaving only "unchewables" in the crate (

PS and dont forget to remove that collar