Meredith Hamilton wrote 02/28/2011 08:12 PM Re: Use and Mis-Use of the E Collar [Re: Barbara Schuler ] #319265 - 02/28/2011 08:12 PM
Meredith Hamilton Webboard User Reg: 01-25-2009 Posts: 1082 Loc: Columbus, Ohio Offline	Sure fire way to cause dog aggression, don't you think? I won't go near the place, but people will let their unleashed dogs approach mine and then correct them to the point of screaming and yelping if they come within feet of us. I can't even talk about this. I get too upset. Ripley & his Precious
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Al Curbow wrote 02/28/2011 08:16 PM Re: Use and Mis-Use of the E Collar [Re: Peter Cavallaro ] #319267 - 02/28/2011 08:16 PM
Al Curbow Webboard User Reg: 06-30-2005 Posts: 974 Loc: northeast Offline	Peter, How do YOU correct a dog off leash? Show me a video. I have 4 dogs currently. I leave the house everyday with a different dog, no leash or collars needed. Here's a 5 month old doing obedience, do you think it's the equivalent of "bashing a dog with a pipe"? He was trained with an ecollar http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K-JGufWHYY Betty and Will, Look how little he was!!
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Barbara Schuler wrote 02/28/2011 08:18 PM Re: Use and Mis-Use of the E Collar [Re: Meredith Hamilton ] #319268 - 02/28/2011 08:18 PM
Barbara Schuler Webboard User Reg: 01-15-2009 Posts: 5090 Loc: Lanexa Virginia Offline	These are ignorant, cruel people Meredith, but I promise you, if you could see Erika come shooting like a bullet back to her daddy after a touch of the vibrate button, you would at least know they can ALSO be a positive tool. NO excuse for those folks however, none.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 02/28/2011 08:23 PM Re: Use and Mis-Use of the E Collar [Re: Meredith Hamilton ] #319270 - 02/28/2011 08:23 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: meredith hamilton Sure fire way to cause dog aggression, don't you think? Yes. Ignorant use of the e-collar has been a topic here not long ago here, with an anxious dog who was given "level 10" e-collar "correction" as his intro to an e-collar when he bit the hand of a child who he perceived as threatening his high-value food item (after overwhelming him with in-the-face petting, baby talk, and so on). It did the same thing. The dog had no association for this pain-from-the-sky except the child. eta I love that clip, Al. I love how the others do their "distraction proofing" job so well. Edited by Connie Sutherland (02/28/2011 08:25 PM) Edit reason: eta
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Roland Kaschuba wrote 02/28/2011 08:24 PM Re: Use and Mis-Use of the E Collar [Re: Barbara Schuler ] #319271 - 02/28/2011 08:24 PM
Roland Kaschuba Webboard User Reg: 01-28-2011 Posts: 44 Loc: Offline	Barbara wrote, Roland, I don't know if you meant to address Al or Peter, but if you meant Al, you may want to re-read his post. Sorry Al, my mistake.
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Meredith Hamilton wrote 02/28/2011 08:31 PM Re: Use and Mis-Use of the E Collar [Re: Barbara Schuler ] #319273 - 02/28/2011 08:31 PM
Meredith Hamilton Webboard User Reg: 01-25-2009 Posts: 1082 Loc: Columbus, Ohio Offline	In the right hands, valuable tool. There is an avoidance-based dog "training" franchise that we do not mention on this board. note: We don't need to give them/him publicity, either. Edited by Connie Sutherland (02/28/2011 08:37 PM) Edit reason: delete their location Ripley & his Precious
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Al Curbow wrote 02/28/2011 08:31 PM Re: Use and Mis-Use of the E Collar [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #319274 - 02/28/2011 08:31 PM
Al Curbow Webboard User Reg: 06-30-2005 Posts: 974 Loc: northeast Offline	Connie, He gets me back for using the ecollar at 1:33 in this one, I still think it's wrong when I hear my bride giggle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmvQnJnkkeY&NR=1
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Connie Sutherland wrote 02/28/2011 08:34 PM Re: Use and Mis-Use of the E Collar [Re: Al Curbow ] #319275 - 02/28/2011 08:34 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: al curbow Connie, He gets me back for using the ecollar at 1:33 in this one, I still think it's wrong when I hear my bride giggle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmvQnJnkkeY&NR=1 "Giggle" !? That is an evil snicker if I ever heard one! Sounds like Snidely Whiplash!
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Ana Kozlowsky wrote 02/28/2011 08:39 PM Re: Use and Mis-Use of the E Collar [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #319276 - 02/28/2011 08:39 PM
Ana Kozlowsky Webboard User Reg: 01-21-2010 Posts: 1049 Loc: Offline	Michael Ellis' Opening Lecture in his School Course on the Proper Use of the Electric Collar. A must see for anybody who engages in heated discussions about e-collar use on web forums
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Michael_Wise wrote 02/28/2011 08:42 PM Re: Use and Mis-Use of the E Collar [Re: Al Curbow ] #319277 - 02/28/2011 08:42 PM
Michael_Wise Webboard User Reg: 07-10-2006 Posts: 4454 Loc: Arkansas Offline	Quote: al curbow Connie, He gets me back for using the ecollar at 1:33 in this one, I still think it's wrong when I hear my bride giggle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmvQnJnkkeY&NR=1 I think I heard you tell him to "shut up" right before that. You SHOULD'VE asked him nicely to be quiet.
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