Multi high drive dogs & cat household. What Tammy said.

Cats learn not to tease the dogs. Mine also learned to WALK & NOT run near them so as not to trigger their prey drive.

Also I had a couple of baby gates up in doorways so that the cat could get under them to get away from the dogs if she feels that she needs to until all the animals knew what was expected of them.

NO aggression to each other is tolerated from any of the animals EVER!

Dogs were on tab leashes in the house( my crazy prey drive female with a prong collar) for however long it took for them to realize that the cat was not on the menu.

3 of my GSDs were raised with the cat from 7-8 week old pups & one came as a 2 1/2 yr old, but may have had been around cats before here.

2 of my dogs & the cat used to sleep on the same bed together. The cat will 'box' with the dogs playing with them. (tapping them with her front paws with her claws in) Dogs will stick their nosed under her belly & lift her a bit to encourage her to play with them.

It CAN BE DONE. It just take a lot of time, patience, & consistancy with all of the animals to make it happen.

Edited to add... I personally do not believe in spraying my dogs in the face with anything. Lemon will sting their eyes. I think that would just piss them off & create more anger they it would solve. JMO

I never had to deal with cage jumping. But to me controlling the environment is also key. You may need to put the cats up in a room at night or when you are not able to be totally present to handle all the animals. My dogs sleep in my room also. Thru the years as pups crate & loose as adults.

Also, how do you teach no cage jumping? He will go crazy at jumping the cage if he sees the other cat.

I WAS going to use the prong and I'm being told over and over (here) not to.

So my other option was spraying. Or what else is there?


I can't judge his prey drive but i'd say it's up there. He can't pass any birds, squirrels, my cats. I don't see how I can teach him not to mess with the cats with no prong


I've tried everything up till now, sometimes I picked him up by his skin when he really pissed me off with the cats

And a few mins later he's chasing again....


They have no problems getting away from him, my male cat doesn't get away though, he fights.

It gets messy here

Can I use the prong?

I just want to add. All this stuff happens when I'm home and I'm up.

When I'm not home or sleeping they're separated. Though if the male cat tries to come in the room he will cage jump.


Interesting tidbit. I just got the crate 2 weeks ago. The first day I didn't lock it right and I came home to him out of the cage and both cats in the room with him peacefully chilling together.

Natalie,we have rabbits, birds,and a chinchilla living in the house. Cage jumping means no jumping on the cage when the Chin sprints her 4 level penthouse in a second.

When I bring a dog home, the crate goes in a room with the cats and a rabbit.The new dog is moved around by leash,controlled routine,becoming part of the mix , but not ready to mingle, this takes months.

Do you mean your dog is storming the front of the crate when the cat enters?

"Interesting tidbit. I just got the crate 2 weeks ago. The first day I didn't lock it right and I came home to him out of the cage and both cats in the room with him peacefully chilling together."

Could be your excitement/stress in trying to get them under control creates more excitement among them. With nobody around they worked it out by themselves.
I'd be curious as to what your response was to this finding. Did you immediately separate them?
Did they just keep chillin or did your entering the room cause them to get crazy again?

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"Interesting tidbit. I just got the crate 2 weeks ago. The first day I didn't lock it right and I came home to him out of the cage and both cats in the room with him peacefully chilling together."

Could be your excitement/stress in trying to get them under control creates more excitement among them. With nobody around they worked it out by themselves.
I'd be curious as to what your response was to this finding. Did you immediately separate them?
Did they just keep chillin or did your entering the room cause them to get crazy again?

Well, he ran to the door to greet me so they already weren't chilling lol. I know they were because of the position the cats were in and the fact that they were in my room.
He'd NEVER allow the second cat in my room.

I didn't do anything, he just went on to follow me as I settled down and the cats got up after a few mins as well.

It's very possible that me being there contributes to it though I don't understand how. But I must be triggering something.

Next day they were back to normal. But then a few days later my daughter sent me a pic of them laying in her room 2 feet from each other.

I wish someone was here for a few days to decipher this for me

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Natalie,we have rabbits, birds,and a chinchilla living in the house. Cage jumping means no jumping on the cage when the Chin sprints her 4 level penthouse in a second.

When I bring a dog home, the crate goes in a room with the cats and a rabbit.The new dog is moved around by leash,controlled routine,becoming part of the mix , but not ready to mingle, this takes months.

Do you mean your dog is storming the front of the crate when the cat enters?

Kind of and barking like crazy

I'd love to start over and follow Ed's protocol (seems that's what you did). Will it work or is it too late?

I have had many fosters over the years, all vary in age, and no history on them, this protocol works for them when followed.

You said you got a crate 2 weeks ago, was she crated prior?

What are you doing now when she barks in the crate?

Nope, I tried when I first got him, the crate wasn't in my room (I had no space) and he'd cry because I'm always in my room.

So I gave up a day or two later and sold the crate.

And on another forum I was convinced to try crating again. I did (this time I made space in my room) and I'm loving it!!! I'm an idiot for not listening all this time.

I either spray him with water, verbally scold or bang (not really bang but I don't know the word to use) on the crate.

Actually, that's another question. What SHOULD I do?
Also, I know when I come home I should ignore him and only let him out when He's calm but I can't. I live in an apartment and he goes so crazy that people can hear outside.

That goes for his whining and barking. Sometimes when I lock him up and leave him I stand downstairs and listen and I can hear him loud from the 3rd floor.

Sometimes it takes him 45 mins to stop screaming. Neighbors DO hear, they told me about it.

I know that I should come and go for a few secs at a time and I'm doing it but in the meanwhile I have to go to work and leave him for 11 hours.

In any case, crating is a life saver. Before crating I made my daughter stay home with him because we couldn't leave him alone (he dug hardwood floor).
Sometimes she'd leave and we'd fight.