Re: My 8 week old GSD and Bacterial Colitis
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#259663 - 12/16/2009 04:30 PM |
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She went last night, and has not gone again since. It was pudding like. She has been eating rice + chicken broth. I am worried she may be going in her crate and then eating it...
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Re: My 8 week old GSD and Bacterial Colitis
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She went last night, and has not gone again since. It was pudding like. She has been eating rice + chicken broth. I am worried she may be going in her crate and then eating it...
You mean she pooped last night, and it had changed from watery to pudding-like?
I'm trying to clarify: If she pooped last night, I wouldn't be worried about no pooping since. It's only 18 hours or so, right? Unless I'm mis-reading?
Pooping once a day is not at all uncommon or abnormal.
Isn't the change from watery diarrhea to pudding a very good change?
What is making you worry about poop-eating? Does she have poop-breath, or have you ever observed her poop-eating before?
Please fill in the blanks if I'm missing something. ![:) smiley for :)](http://leerburg.com/forums/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif) It seems that you're saying that she has gone from uncontrollable water-diarrhea all over herself and the crate to one-a-day poop that's not logs yet but has at least progressed to pudding. Right?
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From here: ... having uncontrollable diarrhea. I take her out every three hours at night, and every 1.5-2 hours during the day and she still ends up going in the crate a few times a day. She ultimately gets the diarrhea all over her. ....
to here: She went last night, and has not gone again since. It was pudding like. She has been eating rice + chicken broth.
seems all positive.
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Re: My 8 week old GSD and Bacterial Colitis
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#259705 - 12/16/2009 11:22 PM |
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Thats pretty much how it is going. I guess I am so used to the 5-7x a day pooping that I was a but over concerned. Took her for a short walk and got one out of her a few hours ago. Still pudding like but it seems to be forming up. This is day two of the rice+broth diet.
To clarify the poop eating. Since she had this uncontrollable pooping it has lead her to eat it when she was going in her crate. It was easy to identify that she ate it because in these circumstances. I have went in once today to the smell of poop, but no signs what so ever in her crate. I guess this could be either gas, or she did go and ate it. Any ideas? I do like how she is progressing now, much more so then when she was on the meds.
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Re: My 8 week old GSD and Bacterial Colitis
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#259840 - 12/19/2009 07:56 PM |
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Great news is today she is having nice solid log poops. She also seems to be having the ability to hold it, which she severely lacked before. This is what I believe would be the third day of rice + chicken broth + yogurt diet. I do have a few questions on where to go from here.
She was on chicken soup for the large breed puppy, I would like to switch her to taste of the wild. So given that she has not had chicken soup for several days now, when I start to incorporate real food back into her diet could I start with taste of the wild?
The next question is on how to start adding real food into her diet. I was thinking tomorrow to slowly start adding in kibble, but to soak the kibble in water until its a mushy type substance to also ease the digesting.
So my plan if this sounds good would be to do half rice and half soft water soaked kibble for the next few days. And then slowly start replacing the rice with kibble and then slowly start soaking the kibble less and less until we get back to straight kibble. I also plan to continue adding in canned pumpkin and yogurt. Thoughts?
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Re: My 8 week old GSD and Bacterial Colitis
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#259843 - 12/19/2009 10:24 PM |
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When did the log-poops start? How many days of them? Please don't change anything until you have a history of three days of perfect poop.
It's not how many days of the diarrhea diet that matters as much as how many days of perfect poop on it.
Let us know -- I will check here first thing in the morning (because Sundays are slow on the board, and I want you to get an answer asap).
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Re: My 8 week old GSD and Bacterial Colitis
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#259844 - 12/19/2009 11:16 PM |
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The perfect poops started today. Do I have anything to worry about in terms of her diet if I have her on rice and yogurt only for a week? Thanks Connie I really appreciate the informative and quick responses. You're better then my vet
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Re: My 8 week old GSD and Bacterial Colitis
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#259861 - 12/20/2009 11:09 AM |
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The perfect poops started today. Do I have anything to worry about in terms of her diet if I have her on rice and yogurt only for a week? ...
I understand that she is 10-11 weeks and growing, but inflaming the gut again with too-fast of a switch back to kibble will mean going back to diarrhea and no nutrients to speak of. JMO.
So my own diarrhea action plan over the years has turned into 3-days-of-good-logs before a gradual switch back. Also, no, a week on rice and yogurt would not cause me concern. (Yogurt even has calcium, and not in a bad ratio with its phosphorus, either.)
So on balance, my big goal is to be sure not to trigger that gut inflammation again by introducing regular food before it's calmed down all the way.
Then when I did switch back, I'd do it in very small meals of the regular food. A snack-size meal every few hours will probably work best, and you will know how the poop is before gradually moving back to normal size meals.
I guess it sounds like overkill, but there are so many threads here about dogs with almost chronic diarrhea after a bout of something, and most of them finally track back to too-large, too-fast reintroduction of regular food for the inflamed gut to handle.
All JMO. I'm not a health professional.
Let us know how she is.
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Re: My 8 week old GSD and Bacterial Colitis
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#259883 - 12/20/2009 05:25 PM |
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Sounds good. What are indications of a UTI?
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Re: My 8 week old GSD and Bacterial Colitis
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Sounds good. What are indications of a UTI?
Among others, early symptoms include any one or more of these: change in frequency or amount, thirst, peeing in unusual places, inability to wait, dribbling, blood, straining, squatting often, maybe stronger urine odor.
In the case of this dog, who has had so much recent exposure (diarrhea all over gives bacteria plenty of chances to enter the urethra), I wouldn't let a single UTI symptom go without getting a clean catch (of the first pee of the day if possible) and dropping it off at the vet's.
Do you know how to collect it?
What symptom are you seeing?
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Re: My 8 week old GSD and Bacterial Colitis
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#259887 - 12/20/2009 08:10 PM |
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I am seeing a decrease in water consumption ( could be because she is no longer having diarrhea . Also seems she is having an increased frequency of peeing. She would go once or twice outside then within an hour or two go in her crate. On a 20-30 minute walk she is going 4-5 times. This seems especially strange considering the decrease of water consumption. I do not know how to collect a sample, do you have some good tips? ![:D smiley for :D](http://leerburg.com/forums/images/graemlins/default/laugh.gif) . And by first pee of the day, what do you mean? I have been taking her out every three hours, even throughout the night.
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