thank you guys for your help,
no connie i dont know what a marker training is, i will do a search here and see what i can find.

as an update, i have moved his crate to the roof, where he has no contact with anyone, but me and my family, he doesnt like it,i hear him cry at night and howl most of it, but i think it is for his own good.

i got the bike back to the garrage and kept it there but i dont run it infront of him, and we play games with him around it, yesterday he cautiously approched the bike and snifed it but ran away from it almost immediatly, but i think that was a very big step for him to come close to it.

As what he usualy does, he stays in his crate all day, and in the evening when i come back from work or when my family are home from school and wife from work, we let him loose and he just jumps around chews on the grass, chases the sprinklers and runs around the yard,, later at night my wife and i take him out on a long walk, and we do some excersising on training, and play catch. sometimes he is leashed and others he is not depends on traffic.

i will post some pictures of him this weekend

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thank you guys for your help,
no connie i dont know what a marker training is, i will do a search here and see what i can find.

as an update, i have moved his crate to the roof, where he has no contact with anyone, but me and my family, he doesnt like it,i hear him cry at night and howl most of it, but i think it is for his own good.

i got the bike back to the garrage and kept it there but i dont run it infront of him, and we play games with him around it, yesterday he cautiously approched the bike and snifed it but ran away from it almost immediatly, but i think that was a very big step for him to come close to it.

As what he usualy does, he stays in his crate all day, and in the evening when i come back from work or when my family are home from school and wife from work, we let him loose and he just jumps around chews on the grass, chases the sprinklers and runs around the yard,, later at night my wife and i take him out on a long walk, and we do some excersising on training, and play catch. sometimes he is leashed and others he is not depends on traffic.

i will post some pictures of him this weekend

Here you go:

http://leerburg.com/markers.htm


I would keep in leashed for now when you are off your property, because a dog who is having fear problems will bolt if he's badly startled --- even if he has not done that, you don't want to find out that he will at a time when he is off-lead.

I'm with you: approaching and sniffing the bike was GREAT. :>

After a few of those little overtures to the scary bike, having the bike running but far from the dog (far enough NOT to evoke the fear response) can be good, too. When a fear response is that bad, I usually would try desensitizing first. And I would really take my time, too. If I went too fast, I would back up right away.

I would probably give him some of his high-value treats (BBQ ribs) right near that bike, too.

And I would definitely start some upbeat motivational marker training.... little sessions throughout the day..... and build up his confidence by leaps and bounds while you strengthen the dog/handler bond.

If he is not a food-driven dog, I actually would keep his faves around. Tiny bits of BBQ ribs can be in a baggie in the freezer..... a whole rib is not an appropriate reward anyway, when you're doing lots of basic ob rewarding.

For a quick demo of marker training, scroll to Training with Markers on the page I linked you to above, and see the sit. It will give you an immediate feel for how it works. It really shows the huge effect that TIMING has on training.

Moe, currently your dog may not like being inside, but will adjust to it. I agree with the others who advise to keep the dog crated when you're not home, in the house. I also would let the dog sleep in the crate in the house at night. I'm not clear on whether he is crated in the house now or crated outside, but being crated outside is not going to keep him safe from being stolen.

If dognapping is common in that area, you can bet they're not stealing dogs to give them loving homes. No telling what they're doing to the dogs they steal.

It's your responsibility as the owner of this dog to protect it in every way you can. Crating him in the house is the way to do that.