Lori Hall Webboard User Reg: 06-12-2007
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I had Kasey, my 1 1/2 yr old golden, on that elimination diet. We added chicken almost two weeks ago and he seemed to do ok, so we went completely raw with chicken only. He quickly got the runs probably because of too much fat. So, taking Connie's advice, we went with white meat only and added some rice. His poops returned quickly to normal and so I gradually took out the rice and fed only bone in breasts. He did fine until I gave him a leg/thigh quarter last night and then this morning the runs came back. I have taken the skin off all the chicken, so there wasn't extra fat on it.
Has anyone had this experience? Are there some dogs who can't eat the dark meat? Are chicken backs fatty too? Are there dogs who can't do just meat without adding something like rice to bind them up a little?
Not sure how to proceed without having to stick just with breast meat - not much bone there.
You could give it a couple of days to see if he firms up on it. Alternatively you could try the BARF approach and add some veg, a lot of people say that veg from below ground firms it up whilst that from above ground will make them looser, I feed raw so don't have personal experience of this.
My dog took a few days to get used to raw, once he'd cottoned onto what he was supposed to do with the bones all was well. Good luck with it.
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005
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Quote: Lori Hall
I had Kasey, my 1 1/2 yr old golden, on that elimination diet. We added chicken almost two weeks ago and he seemed to do ok, so we went completely raw with chicken only. He quickly got the runs probably because of too much fat. So, taking Connie's advice, we went with white meat only and added some rice. His poops returned quickly to normal and so I gradually took out the rice and fed only bone in breasts. He did fine until I gave him a leg/thigh quarter last night and then this morning the runs came back. I have taken the skin off all the chicken, so there wasn't extra fat on it.
Lori
With this dog's history, I'd guess too much all at once. Too much food and/or too much diffeent food.
Dear Connie: I have a question. My dogs each eat approximately 8 oz of food a day. They seem to be doing fine, but I had a question about how much of their diet should be fiber? I just heard on a show discussing dogs that if they do not have the right mix of fiber in their diet, they could end up eating their waste. They do not do that now, and I do not want them to if I can avoide it.
I want to check to make sure I am doing what is right for them.
(I feed them chicken, turkey, beef, salmon, and once in a great while pork, and chicken livers/beef liver, and hope to get tripe soon. I try and include veggies like green beans and peas, carrots, and spinach. they aren't real found of veggies. they also get a little bit of apple as a treat) They have treats that are home made, that have yams in them, peanut butter some times, and liver treats.
I wondered what percentage of their meal should be fiber.
Thanks
Fibers is a general term used for Complex Carbohydrates, you are going to find some info that tells you they need it and those info are mostly writen by "supporters" of Commercial dog foods. But here is some info for people who feed RAW:
I have never fed my dogs FIBERS ,CARBS, they get that from the meats and other parts that do not involve Veggies,fruits,oats,rice,etc....
The fiber question has come up a few times from people when talking or asking about a raw diet. This has ALL the info one would need to debunk that one. Awesome!
Quote:
"Small Animal Clinical Nutrition III, written by the founder of Science Diet (Mark Morris Sr.) and his son (Mark Morris Jr.): 'Some question exists regarding the need of dogs and cats for dietary carbohydrate. From a practical sense, the answer to this question is of little importance because there are carbohydrates in most food ingredients used in commercially prepared dog foods.' " (That one is my favorite.)
Too funny.
On a side note. If there was ever a doubt to who the mayor of Linkville is, you just booted it out the window.
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