"Hey Jamie how did you teach the going around the goals thing? Did you use a touch pad, shape it, lure it?"
I wanted running. So I taught it standing facing a solid object (I used a lamp post originally) with my dog at a heel, then threw the frisbee and "sent" my dog, since I wouldn't let him back up, and I was blocking him going in front of the object he dodged around the object to get the frisbee. I didn't bother attaching a command to it, just got him in the pattern of going around the object as fast as possible to get the frisbee.
I then moved back about two steps and put a drop line on my dog. I told him to wait, and placed the frisbee around the area I'd been throwing it. When released I took a step with him to prevent him going in front, by this point he had realized it wasn't to much of an extra effort to go around the pole. I started introducing the "around" command at this point and was careful to both release him normally as well as make him go around the pole.
When I started to work on distance to get the speed out I did start leaving a slightly lower value toy at the pole and have a high value frisbee hidden behind my back. I would send my dog, he'd run to the pole where OMG there was a toy, and as he came around I'd throw the frisbee out and suddenly that was the thing to get. The toy was phased out pretty quickly as the behavior itself was rewarding (I worked both dogs together encourage some competition and it became a race which got me a lot more speed), a race to see who could get around and back to catch the frisbee. Each time I introduced a new type of object I would do a few test runs really close up but they catch on pretty quickly.
Ryuk is now doing HUGE objects like bleachers and buildings as well as tiny object like mini traffic cones, Gamble is learning non-post poles and dumpsters and traffic cones (that he likes to eat...which has presented a bit more of a challenge lol)
It's a great trick for days you're feeling lazy, I've had Ryuk sprint telephone poles for 15 minutes while I stand between them directing him.....as long as you reward regularly (so that they don't try to take pieces of you off as they run by) it's super easy and quick on the days you only have about 10 minutes to blow off some energy and it's non-stop running, Gambit in particular knows how to trot on the way back with the toy to conserve energy while playing fetch, so that would take at least 3X as long to tire him out on a busy day.
Thankyou Jamie for the detailed response in training the "around". I definitely want to try that as a tool to wear down Logan. I often (with the chuckit) throw a ball and when he returns, I throw one in the other direction so he is constantly running. I have him run until his tongue turns blue, stop then repeat after he catches his breath.
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