Daniel.P.Hughes Webboard User Reg: 02-06-2010
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I have just a poll question or opinion question. What do you guys find easier for non dog savvy or non trainers to work with clickers or the YES and Good system.
For example if I were to encourage my friends who don't train at all into a system should I encourage clicker as it may perhaps be easier to hit the mark or avoid repeated YES marks to encourage them with voice and just work through any mess ups.
If the person talks to their dog a lot then a clicker all the way for me. Then I can tell people to just be quiet and let the clicker do the work.
For instance, person is the type to say "sit" 5 times. The habit of too much verbal will be hard to break so a clicker will facilitate that faster than just switching verbals. Once the person has been retrained then they can use either method.
My 11 yr old GSD Thunder can put up with talking or anything else and nothing disturbs him from training. He's my rock solid dog.
My other, almost 8 yr old GSD Trooper can only handle a calm, quiet "good". Little to no talking.
Any petting must be very calm also otherwise he gets so excited he can't think. He's my ADHD, love the world, constantly wants to play clown. He still acts like a 6 month old Lab puppy.
The individual dogs has to be figured into how your training goes.
David Winners Webboard User Reg: 07-03-2009
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I tend to use a clicker when training behaviors that I want to free shape, or pinpoint a very precise motion, such as a nose bump or target with a paw.
I use verbal markers for less precise behaviors like OB commands and recall.
I think the precision of the clicker provides a very clear picture to the dog, where as a verbal marker is more general.
As Bob mentioned, verbal praise can amp the dog up, so I will either temper my YES marker to keep the dog focused, or take advantage of that to build drive in the dog for the behavior. It all depends on the dog.
I use a verbal marker only because when I try to hold onto a clicker, treats and leash at the same time, I end up dropping something; usually the leash or a handful of treats. It's something I'm working on.
Cathy Goessman Webboard User Reg: 12-03-2007
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I tend to use the clicker myself as David Winners said. Precision behaviors or free-shaping.
The clicker is sometimes nice with new trainers because it makes training a new situation. Normally half the time they're going "I know how to do that" in their head rather than understanding that "good" is a marker not some random praise word. The clicker seems to make them listen to instructions a little more because it's something new that they don't think they already know how to use,
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