 Re: Teach only on furniture after "ok"
[Re: Bob Scott ]
#401329 - 07/08/2016 09:27 AM |
Webboard User
Reg: 03-28-2013
Posts: 1571
Loc:
 Offline |
|
Been way to hot and now tons of rain.
On the hot days I just take a hose and soak the belly.
Down to one now cause we had to put Thunder down a week or so back.
Trooper hasn't stopped howling yet.
Bob, it took Shaka my Akita at least 3 MONTHS of Deep Grief before she was anywhere near back to normal again, after Lazar my Borzoi passed away -- She would hunt for him everywhere each time we went outdoors, and inside the house she would just lie on his old bed & mourn (we had never allowed her on his bed while he was alive, but afterwards, it was simply understood between us that rule did not apply any longer)...
|
 Top
|
|
Re: Teach only on furniture after "ok"
[Re: Candi Campbell ]
#401333 - 07/08/2016 01:33 PM |
Moderator
Reg: 07-13-2005
Posts: 31571
Loc: North-Central coast of California
| Offline |
|
Been way to hot and now tons of rain.
On the hot days I just take a hose and soak the belly.
Down to one now cause we had to put Thunder down a week or so back.
Trooper hasn't stopped howling yet.
Bob, it took Shaka my Akita at least 3 MONTHS of Deep Grief before she was anywhere near back to normal again, after Lazar my Borzoi passed away -- She would hunt for him everywhere each time we went outdoors, and inside the house she would just lie on his old bed & mourn (we had never allowed her on his bed while he was alive, but afterwards, it was simply understood between us that rule did not apply any longer)...
Years ago, I read on this site advice to allow surviving dogs to see and sniff the body of the deceased dog. There were a lot of comments about how dogs are usually far more accepting of death than many humans, and about how confusion and fear about where the pack member went can sometimes look like grief.
This advice resonated with me, and I have followed it ever since, no matter how inconvenient or awkward it may sometimes be.
I can only say that my own results have been better since reading this. I've seen several different immediate reactions, from extended sniffing all over the body to quick sniffs and then turning away. But I have not seen the extreme lethargy (or depression) or the searching behavior I had seen before.
I can't be sure, of course, that this is an outcome of letting the survivors see and smell the body, but it does make sense to me. And of course, I have still seen what looks like sadness.
I'm just saying that confusion and anxiety have seemed to me to be much less.
|
|
Top
|
|
Re: Teach only on furniture after "ok"
[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
#401334 - 07/08/2016 02:42 PM |
Webboard User
Reg: 03-28-2013
Posts: 1571
Loc:
| Offline |
|
Been way to hot and now tons of rain.
On the hot days I just take a hose and soak the belly.
Down to one now cause we had to put Thunder down a week or so back.
Trooper hasn't stopped howling yet.
Bob, it took Shaka my Akita at least 3 MONTHS of Deep Grief before she was anywhere near back to normal again, after Lazar my Borzoi passed away -- She would hunt for him everywhere each time we went outdoors, and inside the house she would just lie on his old bed & mourn (we had never allowed her on his bed while he was alive, but afterwards, it was simply understood between us that rule did not apply any longer)...
Years ago, I read on this site advice to allow surviving dogs to see and sniff the body of the deceased dog. There were a lot of comments about how dogs are usually far more accepting of death than many humans, and about how confusion and fear about where the pack member went can sometimes look like grief.
This advice resonated with me, and I have followed it ever since, no matter how inconvenient or awkward it may sometimes be.
I can only say that my own results have been better since reading this. I've seen several different immediate reactions, from extended sniffing all over the body to quick sniffs and then turning away. But I have not seen the extreme lethargy (or depression) or the searching behavior I had seen before.
I can't be sure, of course, that this is an outcome of letting the survivors see and smell the body, but it does make sense to me. And of course, I have still seen what looks like sadness.
I'm just saying that confusion and anxiety have seemed to me to be much less. |
|
Top
|
|
Re: Teach only on furniture after "ok"
[Re: Candi Campbell ]
#401339 - 07/09/2016 12:06 AM |
Moderator
Reg: 06-14-2002
Posts: 7417
Loc: St. Louis Mo
| Offline |
|
I had two Border terriers that I did natural earth work with.
They both were on the deck with faces between their paws, watching me bury one of my my Kerry Blue Terriers so I figured they were mourning.
"NOT"
The wife called me early the next day at work and screamed into the phone, "THEY'RE DIGGING UP ROCKY, THEY'RE DIGGING UP ROCKY".
I guess because I was grieving I didn't give a thought to the fact I knew that a shovel to a working terrier is like a shot gun to a bird dog. 
I had her put a couple of paving stones over the grave and just keep the little bassids in the house till I got home.
We can laugh about it now.
old dogs LOVE to learn new tricks |
|
Top
|
|
Re: Teach only on furniture after "ok"
[Re: Sandra More ]
#401349 - 07/09/2016 06:33 PM |
Webboard User
Reg: 12-03-2007
Posts: 1231
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
| Offline |
|
We let each of the dogs come in and inspect the body of our Boxer we had PTS at home. The only one who didn't seem to "get it" was my Bulldog. All actively turned away after the first sniff except her. She was the only one that we saw go looking for him too.
|
|
Top
|
|
Re: Teach only on furniture after "ok"
[Re: Sandra More ]
#401374 - 07/11/2016 01:22 PM |
Webboard User
Reg: 01-23-2015
Posts: 1619
Loc: Brazil, Bahia
| Offline |
|
It is a long history of humanity that people thought or think, we are the only beings able to mourn. I've some years ago also seen my cats mourning because of the loss of one who had passed away or didn't turn up any more. Maybe it happens only in my phantasie that they do feel sadness, I can not prove it. But I had so many times the same impression.
I also believe we should give the survivors the opportunity to see, sniff and touch the dead friend. It is a proven fact that we the so superior beings (!!!) can go through the mourning process much better, when we could see the deceased and say a last goodbye. If not, we have much more difficulties with processing the mourning. Why should this be different for animals?
“If you can keep your head when all around you are losing theirs, then you are a leader” – Rudyard Kipling |
|
Top
|
|
Re: Teach only on furniture after "ok"
[Re: Christina Stockinger ]
#401389 - 07/12/2016 11:28 AM |
Webboard User
Reg: 03-28-2013
Posts: 1571
Loc:
| Offline |
|
It is a long history of humanity that people thought or think, we are the only beings able to mourn. I've some years ago also seen my cats mourning because of the loss of one who had passed away or didn't turn up any more. Maybe it happens only in my phantasie that they do feel sadness, I can not prove it. But I had so many times the same impression.
I also believe we should give the survivors the opportunity to see, sniff and touch the dead friend. It is a proven fact that we the so superior beings (!!!) can go through the mourning process much better, when we could see the deceased and say a last goodbye. If not, we have much more difficulties with processing the mourning. Why should this be different for animals?
AGREED, Christina -- "Canine Closure".
|
|
Top
|
|
Re: Teach only on furniture after "ok"
[Re: Cathy Goessman ]
#401390 - 07/12/2016 11:32 AM |
Webboard User
Reg: 03-28-2013
Posts: 1571
Loc:
| Offline |
|
We let each of the dogs come in and inspect the body of our Boxer we had PTS at home. The only one who didn't seem to "get it" was my Bulldog. All actively turned away after the first sniff except her. She was the only one that we saw go looking for him too.
I wonder if that was because the muzzle anatomy & physiology of a Bulldog compromises their sense of smell (?)
|
|
Top
|
|
Re: Teach only on furniture after "ok"
[Re: Candi Campbell ]
#401393 - 07/12/2016 12:36 PM |
Webboard User
Reg: 12-03-2007
Posts: 1231
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
| Offline |
|
I wonder if that was because the muzzle anatomy & physiology of a Bulldog compromises their sense of smell (?)
My girl is a hog catching lined American Bulldog so her breathing isn't affected like it is in some other lines that aren't still doing active stuff. Her sniffer works just as well as my Cattle Dog's. She can just be a little "dense" at times. 
|
|
Top
|
|
Re: Teach only on furniture after "ok"
[Re: Cathy Goessman ]
#401394 - 07/12/2016 02:38 PM |
Webboard User
Reg: 03-28-2013
Posts: 1571
Loc:
| Offline |
|
LOL, got it, Cathy 
|
|
Top
|
When purchasing any product from Leerburg Enterprises, Inc. it is understood
that any and all products sold by Leerburg Enterprises, Inc. are sold in Dunn
County Wisconsin, USA. Any and all legal action taken against Leerburg Enterprises,
Inc. concerning the purchase or use of these products must take place in Dunn
County, Wisconsin. If customers do not agree with this policy they should not
purchase Leerburg Ent. Inc. products.
Dog Training is never without risk of injury. Do not use any of the products
sold by Leerburg Enterprises, Inc. without consulting a local professional.
The training methods shown in the Leerburg Ent. Inc. DVD’s are meant
to be used with a local instructor or trainer. Leerburg Enterprises, Inc. cannot
be held responsible for accidents or injuries to humans and/or animals.
Copyright 2010 Leerburg® Enterprises, Inc. All rights reserved. All photos and content on leerburg.com are part of a registered copyright owned by Leerburg Enterprise, Inc.
By accessing any information within Leerburg.com, you agree to abide by the
Leerburg.com Privacy Policy and Terms of Use.
Previous Topic
Index
Next Topic
