I would like your take on "Nutro Natural Choice Large Breed Puppy Food". How good is this food, do you know how "natural" it really is? We are feeding our almost 12 week GSD this. Thanks for the help.
Will Rambeau Moderator Reg: 01-25-2003
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I tried it ( before I went RAW ) and my dogs didn't care for it. If you add water to your food as I do, the food rapidly turns into a clay-like substance. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
I feed Nutro to both my GSD's and overall I have been very happy with it. I was feeding Iam's before and had more problems with my dog scratching all the fur off of his ears etc. I don't wet it down so I don't have the hard pasty substance to deal with. Plus they eat it so fast I doubt it would sit there long enough to get pasty if I did wet it down. I have considered going raw, but I just haven't gotten myself to to that level of commitment. Plus, I feel like I need to be better educated before I try it. Anyone I have ever talked to about feeding raw swears by it. With that said, they all use different ingredients in different proportions and that is where it gets confusing for me. I'm not much of a scientist and I don't care to make by dog a lab rat. JMO
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I agree raw is the best choice. I had trouble with my GSD pup in the begging and had to take it slow. I did dry the Nutro but she pooped like 100+ times a day She is now on 100% raw and her growth is controlled, she has a beautiful healthy look about her. I know it gets confusing trying to get the variety but don't stress that. You feed a balance over time not all in one day or one meal. Mine eat mostly turkey RMB with some organ meats, eggs with the shell, pigs feet once and while and chicken. If you are interested in feeding raw look at the menu Ed has posted on the sight. It is simple, cost efective and you can see it is balanced over time. Once you get over the confusion of what and how much to feed it is really easy and the best for your dog <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
I tried Nutro on my dog years ago. She looked awful, her skin was flaky, and she scratched and scratched. I went to raw from there and never looked back. Let me simplify. Feed mostly raw meaty bones and green leafy vegetable mush. I went to a Billinghurst seminar a few years and people were peppering him with questions about supplements, meat to bone ratio etc, etc. He put it in a nutshell. Balanced over time. I started out with RMB's with green vegies. Slowly I added fish oil, offal, liver, eggs,...you get the picture. I pay between 39 and 59 cents per pound for the bones.
Once a month I make mush with vegies and liver, put it in muffin tins and freeze. My dogs look wonderful, my vet is amazed at my older dogs teeth and coat. It really is not that much work. The results were astounding.
I tried a completely raw diet for my now 4-year-old GSD, but found it difficult for a variety of reasons. Be that as it may, I've finally settled on a morning feeding of AvoDerm, and an evening feeding of Greentripe.com's latest formula (which includes green tripe, other meat, fat, ground bone, and ground trachea for chondroitin) mixed with Sojourner (a grain-based oatmeal-like additive). I can't see how he could look any better than he does. YMMV, of course.
IMO, the best approach is empiricism: if you're not satisfied with your dog's condition, experiment with different foods, and stop when you like what you see (skin condition, energy, poop quality, etc.). If you are satisfied, don't mess with it.
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She is now on 100% raw and her growth is controlled, she has a beautiful healthy look about her. I know it gets confusing trying to get the variety but don't stress that. You feed a balance over time not all in one day or one meal. Mine eat mostly turkey RMB with some organ meats, eggs with the shell, pigs feet once and while and chicken. If you are interested in feeding raw look at the menu Ed has posted on the sight. It is simple, cost efective and you can see it is balanced over time. Once you get over the confusion of what and how much to feed it is really easy and the best for your dog <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
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