My dog knows the recall command but with some magor distractions my dog will ignore level six stim on the TT 100xL. My dogs working level is two. My dog is quite new to Ecollar work. What should I do. Do Tri Tronics have the some power as Dogtra. My collar is working because I test the stim levels on myself. Thanks for any help.
Assuming the dog really knows what the collar means, I would back up in my collar training and start working the dog with the collar on the stomach. This would involve starting from scratch and teaching the dog what the stim means. My dog would also ignore the collar on the neck under distractions. But on the stomach he would respond at a MUCH lower level. For example, he would work on a level one on the stomach and ignore a six on the neck under distraction. I'm sure someone on this board will take issue with this approach.
I've never come across a dog that has this wide a difference between his training level and what he feels when distracted. I don't think the problem is in the brand of Ecollar but I would test it, at least with the test light, and make sure that it's working at the higher levels.
Since you say that your dog is "quite new to Ecollar work" I'd say that he also doesn't know that it's his behavior that makes the stim start and stop. As Scott says, I'd go back and work on the beginning recall work. Then I'd move to the sit and then the down. There's nothing wrong with Scott's advice to put the collar on the dog's tummy. I wouldn't bother myself; but it may help make clear to the dog what's going on.
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Also try the collar 1 notch tighter on the neck or try the longer stems. I found I was missing contact at times. My collor is from 1-15 and my male needs about 10 or 11 during high intensity stuff my other dogs need about 5-6. Derek
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Lou-in most cases I would tend to agree with you and I have seen these collars misused myself. The dog that needs the real high stimulation will be 8 years old in May but is just a very tough dog. The only way unfortunately I could make sure that I was just not abusing the dog was I had to try the stimulation on him at rest as during high intensity protection I could get no sign that it was reaching him at all. And this dog is 100% on obedience so I have no need to ever "zap" him except in very high intensity combat done at a distance from me. When tried at rest the dog would not even blink at the 5-6 range on my Innotek. At 10 or 11 he blinks and barely twitches his head. Now if I would hit one of my other dogs with a 10 zap they would cry out, thus they are in the 5-6 range. I only use the ecollar on my male to get him to either out or to stop pursuit if ordered-he has no other needs to be corrected. He is otherwise tuned into me enough even at 200-300 yards away an angry tone in my voice does the trick. Derek
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