Tracy Brown wrote 07/19/2005 05:45 PM territorial aggression #79321 - 07/19/2005 05:45 PM
Tracy Brown Webboard User Reg: 12-20-2004 Posts: 381 Loc: Mississippi Offline	At what age, do you see territorial aggression in working male pups. I had a strange thing happen this morning and trying to make sense of it. I had just uncrated my 4 month old pup and was about to take him outside. He saw someone walking down the street thru the doggie door and tore thru the see-thu plastic flap barking. He followed the guy up and down the fenceline barking with a stiff tail up but didn't have his hackles raised. He did bark in a deeper voice than normal. Could this have been a learned behavior? He has seen my adult female do it many times? She is super sharp and nothing moves near my house without getting bark at. I don't think it is a nerve problem. He has been socialized no problem with strangers. This is the first time I've seen him bark like that. My female didn't charge the fence like that until she was 6 to 8 months old. Ava 12/29/04 Loco 10/8/06
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Robert VanCamp wrote 07/19/2005 06:54 PM Re: territorial aggression [Re: Tracy Brown ] #79322 - 07/19/2005 06:54 PM
Robert VanCamp Webboard User Reg: 11-28-2001 Posts: 3916 Loc: Offline	Maybe, but it's more likely that at 4 months the behavior is internally motivated rather than learned.
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Tracy Brown wrote 07/20/2005 12:07 PM Re: territorial aggression [Re: Robert VanCamp ] #79323 - 07/20/2005 12:07 PM
Tracy Brown Webboard User Reg: 12-20-2004 Posts: 381 Loc: Mississippi Offline	At what age would you start working a pup to alert on strangers near fenceline? Ava 12/29/04 Loco 10/8/06
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Robert VanCamp wrote 07/20/2005 01:07 PM Re: territorial aggression [Re: Tracy Brown ] #79324 - 07/20/2005 01:07 PM
Robert VanCamp Webboard User Reg: 11-28-2001 Posts: 3916 Loc: Offline	That would fall into the catagory of defense IMO and it would wait till the dog was mature. Probably in the neighborhood of 18-24 months, depending on the dog's temperament. You may very well get it naturally before then, but I'm sure not going to promote it.
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Tracy Brown wrote 07/20/2005 01:36 PM Re: territorial aggression [Re: Robert VanCamp ] #79325 - 07/20/2005 01:36 PM
Tracy Brown Webboard User Reg: 12-20-2004 Posts: 381 Loc: Mississippi Offline	Thanks Robert. Right now I'm only doing prey work with a tug and mini-sleeve. I just started with my female in defense she's about 18 months. I know it is early but he seems to do everything better at a early age. His grip and intensity is better than hers during prey work. He wants to rip it away and is possesive. I don't want to rush him into anything. This will be my first pup I will try to sch title. So, I'm taking everything a little slow with him. Ava 12/29/04 Loco 10/8/06
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Ahmed Baqer wrote 08/27/2005 10:15 AM Re: territorial aggression [Re: Tracy Brown ] #79326 - 08/27/2005 10:15 AM
Ahmed Baqer Webboard User Reg: 07-04-2005 Posts: 60 Loc: Kingdom of Bahrain Offline	My pups are 4 and half months old and they bark at anyone walking thruogh our porch gate! Our gate bell has become pretty much obsolete to us now! Mind you, my pups kennels are not in direct view of the gate! Is this normal behaviour? Jipo-ME from Pohranicni Straze and Ha Ja Da breed!
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