Sorry to rain on your parade guys, but Laureen is looking to supress this drive, not build it. It is for a rescue dog that will eventually be placed as a pet. She didn't state that in her posts, I just know because we have been emailing about Annie.

Back to your crates!

Aren't you guys supposed to be working?

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Oh. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Well, in that case, never mind. I'll tell ya, as a person who adopted a dog with this type of prey drive, it is a pain in the @$$. Firm obedience is the key. Make sure she is placed with someone capable of keeping her under control, who understands what they're getting. Too many people want every dog to be a Golden Retriever. :rolleyes:

As Gilda Radner said "never mind"
Damn Deanna!
With you and Van DE Camp slapping me on the wrist all the time, I'm bound to learn something sooner or later. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Either that, or you're going to end up with a prety sore wrist!

Now back to work for me!

oldearthdog, at least she didn't want to use a sharpened prong or Squirt you. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> Could be worst.
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Originally posted by Goodogu:
Is she a fairly calm dog? Does she seem confidant and unafraid of new people and sounds? You did say that this only happens if the wheels are moving right? Very calm and confident with stranger and thunder storms, car backfires etc. Yes, only when wheels are moving. Small dogs and little animals also set her off.

Thanks Deanna - sorry I should have said that she will be going to a companion home - I apologize.

Goodogu wrote: "The question about did she encounter a bad experience from a wheel, being rolled by or on her, was just a probe. She did not raise the dog so we don't know why it has an aggressive reaction to wheels and animals."

We know why just based on the description of the behavior. This is a prey reaction, not one that would have been caused by an early bad experience. You should really read up on the articles on this website before you attempt to give people "help" with their questions. I know this for sure because I have also talked to Laureen before about this dog, but one should be able to assume prey behaviors easily in this instance.

The black one right L?

LSwanston wrote: "A similar situation was touched upon in a previous thread. Your bitch is expressing prey drive in her desire to chase and bite moving wheels, people, and animals. She has the drive, but it hasn't been channeled to the appropriate prey item. She's choosing the prey item, and you need to make the prey item that YOU want her to respond to somehow more interesting and exciting for her (in addition to stopping her behavior toward wheels and people and animals!!!!!). Have you (and this goes for Stoner too) tried the ball on a string that Ed sells?"

Good post, this is one thing that should be done with the dog. . .minus the "building" portion of the training. (i.e. nix the frustration and crating) Designating a prey toy for the dog will help in a few ways. Training and play, both will be necessary with this drivy dog. BUT. . .

Aversion training to extinguish the naughty prey behavior with wheels, cars, animals, etc. will be necessary. E-collar time. . .Where is Castle when we need him. He always claims to be able to do this over the phone. . .

If you are into rescue it may do some good to invest in an e-collar and have a pro show you how to use it. To better prepare dogs for adoptions?

Guru Vancamp
I agree with your solution to this problem, but disagree with the statement that it would have been easy to analyze it as just prey drive. Base on the information given. I agree if the dog had no negative experinces, that mis-directed prey may be the answer.

But I am sure you have seen dogs, that have had negative reactions to things or persons that have antagonize them. To the point that now when if anyone picks up a stick/rolled newpaper or just that person comes around the dog will either run or become aggressive.

You and Deanna have the upper hand (besides 100yrs of experience) because you had a one on one conversation with the dog owner and may have seen the dog reaction. I was just probbing to see what gives with a rescued dog anything possible, usually there is a reason for being sent to a animal shelter.

I disagree. I think that behavior just screams prey drive.

Originally posted by VanCamp:
I have also talked to Laureen before about this dog, but one should be able to assume prey behaviors easily in this instance.

The black one right L?

Yes - thanks - that's the one - Annie - the black GSD here: http://www.gsrt.net/available.htm