Ryan Burley Webboard User Reg: 09-19-2005
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I agreed with everything you said until your last point...
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-Pitbulls/amstaffs temperament is no different than other breed, other than the dog aggression. In fact, I have been around working dogs for close to 18 years, and the pits seems to have more stable temperament than most.
That's like saying my house is just like Bill Gate's house except his is bigger. That's a HUGE difference. And the difference gets even more complicated when you mix it with the crazy prey drive and tolerance for pain that pits are known for. I like the breed, but I know personally, they're not for me. As much as I like the breed, I wouldn't be silly enough to say "the only difference..." as if it's not that significant. In the hands of a responsible owner, pits are great dogs. But there's less room for error with a pit than there is with other breeds and too many stupid pittbull owners out there to belittle the difference between the pittbull and other breeds. Just my 2 cents. I'm no expert.
Hello Ryan,
Yes, some pit bulls do have high prey drive, but not as high as many malinois or german working line shepherds. Yes, they tend to have a high pain tolerance, but as a rule, are handler soft. Which means that they do not usually need as much of a correction as another working breed does. Do I think every pet owner should own one? No, but many "experienced" owners, working people or trainers can handle them, just fine. Just like your average pet owner can often times not handle their cocker spaniel, let alone a working dog. Maybe what I should have stated was: " The pit bull or the amstaff, does not have a temperament that is more un-stable or human agggressive than any other breed". There are good and bad dogs of every breed. It is just that the pit bull attracts the dregs of society. Many people that shouldn't own any animal or raise any children, own pit bulls.
I own an american staff.I know people that owns pitbulls (gamebred purebred).Generally:They two breeds are not the same,although it started out that way for the amstaff.
First,appearance:that pitbull is slimmer,the amstaff is heavier.
Character:the pitbull is often more energetic,often more dog aggressive,than the amstaff.
The amstaff seem to have guarding insticr,the pitbull does not.
Now:dogs are individuals,so you may find amstaffs that look more like a pitbull,and you may find a pitbull with guardinstinct.
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Thanks to all of you for your answers.
I agree AmStaffs and Pitbulls are great dogs. I also agree they should not be owned by the wrong people, same as GSD, Malis, Dobermanns, etc... Every dog over 20 pounds should require a licence to be owned, just like driving a car or owning a firearm.
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Pedro.
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"I agree AmStaffs and Pitbulls are great dogs. I also agree Every dog over 20 pounds should require a licence to be owned, just like driving a car or owning a firearm."
Pedro, you're speaking from a European viewpoint, which most Americans would disagree with. In the U.S.A. we're considered citizens, not subjects and our rights are protected by the document called the "Bill of Rights" written by the founding fathers of this country - so we all can own firearms without interference. It's a guarantee against tyranny from the government, which people from other countries never seem to understand.
Pretty much the same for owning dogs here, the culture of the U.S. is centered on individualism and freedom to a much higher degree than in Europe.
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Will,
I know. I lived in the US and many of my friends there have firearms. That's your legislation, so I respect that. But, as you say, from my European viewpoint, people should at least pass a mental test before owning firearms. In fact the European viewpoint is that nobody should own firearms except the police and the military. Same with working dogs. They even want to ban SchH. My opinion is nobody should be denied that right unless proved mentally insane or being a criminal.
Best regards,
Pedro.
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