I have read that a potential use for an e-collar is to nick a family dog that jumps up on visitors. This seems to be at odds with the conventional wisdom of avoiding stim on a dog that's near another person (possibly confusing the dog into biting, etc.) Can anyone comment on whether the e-collar is appropriate to use in preventing jumping up? It would be very nice to be able to correct the dog without any involvement from the person being jumped upon.
I don't think that the Ecollar is a good tool for this unless the dog knows what the stim means. Some dogs, particularly if the stim is used at high levels, can become aggressive towards the person they're jumping up on.
If the dog has received previous training the Ecollar and knows that the stim means he's doing something wrong, then it's OK, but otherwise, I'd avoid it.
Ed's comments:
This is exactly whats explained in my DVD - the DVD shows how to stop jumping with the correct level of stem
Lou Castle has been kicked off this board. He is an OLD SCHOOL DOG TRAINER with little to offer.
I don't have Mr.Frawley's dvd on e-collar and i sure ain't as smart has he is however i have taken a class with a different training academy on this particular subject. From what i learned you can use it to correct that but there is a few things you need to know about using it. First you need to know how high to set the stim. If you set it to high then your dog could to do a multiple of things to include bite. If you already have that part figured out then the next thing is to have a "cue word" with that command ex. off or nine ect. you won't always use it but if you just go off shocking the dog he will be like what the heck was that for. you can drop the word later. third you need to set him up. when first training it you Have TO BE PROACTIVE and not reactive. if you wait until he is already jumped up then he will think he is being corrected for sniffing or licking or whatever it is he does once he jumps on the person. Best way to do this is set him up and as soon as he thinks of taking his front feet of that floor you correct him. here is where it gets tricky, if you are going to use the dog as a PP dog or sport dog he is going to have to learn that it is not ALWAYS bad to jump up on somebody but it is when they are friendly. I always tell my dog "friend" when somebody enters that way he knows ok this person is cool i don't have to keep an eye on him. My best advice is to purchase the dvd cause if you use the e-collar wrong you WILL mess up your dog and all your training. e-collars can be a great training tool if you know how to use them but they can also take a great dog and totally destroy it. hope this helps ya.
simpler solution and a lot more fun for you and the dog:
get some beer and steaks. rent out a couple of movies and invite a handful of your doggie friends over for the evening. (they MUST be doggie people) kick back and enjoy the beer, steaks and the company. you can spend the entire evening, with the help of your friends, teaching the dog to stay down and rewarding him for correct behavior. it won't take long for him to discover that attention, petting, and a bite of steak comes only when he is correct and that there is no reward for jumping on people.
if there are no dogs in heaven, then when i die i want to go where they went. ---will rogers
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