REPORT ANY REACTION YOUR PET HAS TO Medication to the FDA!

** Since I first wrote this article, we have adopted a no vaccine policy with our own dogs and puppies**

The unfortunate thing about vaccinosis is that people don't get involved in learning about it until after there is a problem, and by then it's often too late.

Vaccinosis is the term used for "reactions our pets have to being vaccinated." It is far more common than we are lead to believe. In fact, most veterinarians refuse to talk about it because they are the ones who give the shots that cause Vaccinosis.

Over the past several years I have started to seriously question what the Veterinary industry recommends for a regimen of vaccinations for our dogs. I will tell you that I no longer vaccinate my dogs. I strongly recommend that you research this issue and not blindly accept the advice of your local vet, no matter how nice of a person he or she is.

It is my opinion that vaccinations cause more problems than they are supposed to cure. My research indicates that side effects from vaccinations are thyroid problems, epilepsy, cancer, allergies and behavioral problems just to mention a few. I would recommend that you do your own research. Go to Google and search on "Vaccinosis." Ask yourself if you honestly think the veterinary medical industry is that far behind the human medical field. Humans do not need yearly vaccinations and I do not think our dogs need yearly vaccinations. I sell an excellent book titled Shock to the System. If you want to have your eyes opened, read this book.

Another very informative book is Vaccine Guide for Dogs & Cats. We now send a copy of this with all of our puppy customers.

It's not a matter IF your dog has a reaction or damage from a vaccine, it's WHEN it will happen. The damage from a vaccine can happen weeks or months after the actual injection is given.

Shock to the System $21.95+s&h

What I do recommend is to schedule a yearly vet examination for your dog - just don't go along with the vaccination schedule.

REPORT YOUR PET'S REACTION TO MEDICATIONS

You can report any reaction your pet has to any drugs (including vaccinations, flea and tick medications, drugs, etc) By doing this you will help other pet owners.

Send your report to:

http://www.fda.gov/cvm/adereporting.htm

How To Report An Adverse Drug Experience

Introduction

Veterinarians and animal owners are encouraged to report adverse experiences and product failures to the government Agency that regulates the product in question. Pretesting by the manufacturer and review of the data by the government does not guarantee absolute safety and effectiveness due to the inherent limitation imposed by testing the product on a limited population of animals. CVM encourages you to contact the manufacturer of a suspect product. Reporting information for the following product categories:

1. Animal Drugs, Devices and Foods

Veterinarians and animal owners may report adverse drug experiences to FDA by:

A. You should first call the drug company to report an ADE for an FDA-approved animal drug. Drug company phone numbers can usually be obtained from product labeling. Inform the drug company that you wish to report an ADE, and ask to speak to a technical services veterinarian. The technical services veterinarian should ask a series of questions about the event, complete the FDA 1932 form, and forward the report to CVM. In addition, the technical services veterinarian may also contact the veterinarian who treated your pet to obtain more information regarding the ADE.

If the drug is not FDA-approved for animal administration, or if it is approved but you do not wish to contact the manufacturer, the report may be submitted directly to the FDA on Form 1932a.

Reports should preferably include a good medical history, all concomitant drugs the animal has been given, any recent surgical procedures, and as much in the way of clinical findings as is possible. Clinical findings would include veterinary exam, clinical chemistries, complete blood counts, urinalysis, fecal exams, radiographic results, and hemodynamic data such as blood pressure, any other pressure measurements in or around the heart, and neurologic assessments.

B. Submitting FORM FDA 1932a, "Veterinary Adverse Experience, Lack of Effectiveness or Product Defect Report." The 1932a is a pre-addressed, prepaid postage form which can be completed and dropped in the mail. This form may be obtained by <clicking> the highlighted title above or by writing to:

ADE Reporting System
Center for Veterinary Medicine
U.S. Food & Drug Administration
7500 Standish Place
Rockville, MD 20855-2773

The Center may occasionally need more detailed information about an incident and the reporter may be called by a CVM staff veterinarian.

C. Telephoning the Center for Veterinary Medicine: 1-888-FDA-VETS

IMPORTANT: The identities of all persons and animals is held in strict confidence by FDA and protected to the fullest extent of the law. The reporter's identity may be shared with the manufacturer or distributor unless requested otherwise. However, FDA will not disclose the reporter's identity to a request from the public, pursuant to the Freedom of Information Act.

Leave your name, address, phone number and the brand name of the drug involved. Ask to have a 1932a form sent or ask for the phone number of the drug company you should call to report the problem.

2. Animal Biologics: Vaccines, Bacterins and Diagnostic Kits

U.S. Department of Agriculture
(800) 752-6255

3. Pesticides: Topically Applied External Parasiticides

U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
(800) 858-PES

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One of the premier vets on Vaccinosis in this country is Dr. Jean Dodds.

To Contact Dr. Jean Dodds:
Home Office: (Mon/Tues/Fri)
Phone 310/ 828-4804 --Pacific Time
Fax: 310/ 828-8251
938 Stanford St.
Santa Monica, CA 90403 USA

Hemopet Office: (Wed/Thurs)
Phone: 714-891-2022 --Pacific Time
Fax: 714-891-2123
11330 Markon Dr
Garden Grove, CA 92841 USA

Dr Jean Dodds: "This schedule is the one I recommend and should NOT be interpreted to mean that other protocols recommended by a veterinarian would be less satisfactory. It's a matter of professional judgement and choice." For breeds or families of dogs susceptible to or effected with immune dysfunction, immune-mediated disease, immune-reactions associated with vaccinations, or autoimmune endocrine disease (e.g., thyroiditis, Addison's or Cushing's disease, diabetes, etc.), the following protocol is recommended:

Age of Pups / Vaccine Type

MLV=modified-live virus

9 weeks MLV Distemper/Parvovirus only (e.g. Intervet Progard Puppy)

12 weeks MLV Distemper/Parvovirus only (e.g. Intervet Progard Puppy)

24 weeks or older , if allowable by law Killed Rabies Vaccine

After 1 year, annually measure serum antibody titers against specific canine infectious agents such as distemper and parvovirus. This is especially recommended for animals previously experiencing adverse vaccine reactions or breeds at higher risk for such reactions (e.g., Weimaraner, Akita, American Eskimo, Great Dane). Another alternative to booster vaccinations is homeopathic nosodes. This option is considered an unconventional treatment that has not been scientifically proven to be efficacious. One controlled parvovirus nosode study did not adequately protect puppies under challenged conditions. However, data from Europe and clinical experience in North America support its use. If veterinarians choose to use homeopathic nosodes, their clients should be provided with an appropriate disclaimer and written informed consent should be obtained.

I use only killed 3 year rabies vaccine for adults. In some states, they may be able to give titer test result in lieu of booster.

I do NOT use Bordetella, corona virus, leptospirosis or Lyme vaccines unless these diseases are endemic in the local area pr specific kennel. Furthermore, the currently licensed leptospira bacterins do not contain the serovars causing the majority of clinical leptospirosis today.

Do NOT recommend vaccinating bitches during estrus, pregnancy or lactation. Do not vaccinate during times of stress such as: surgery, travel, illness or infection.

Read this link on our Web Discussion Board on "Why NOT to Vaccinate for Lepto."

http://www.leerburg.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/131547/page/0/fpart/1

Dogs may be getting too many vaccines, vet specialist says

Cox News Service

Tucson, Arizona | Published: 07.29.2007

WASHINGTON — Despite warnings that America's dogs are being vaccinated too much and too often, most veterinarians continue the practice as a way to keep clients coming in the door, according to a leading animal immunologist.

Vaccines for rabies and three other major canine diseases — distemper, canine adenovirus-2 and canine parvovirus — should be given no more often than once every three years, said Ronald Schultz, a veterinary immunologist at the University of Wisconsin-Madison.

"Unfortunately, most veterinarians recommend annual revaccinations for these core diseases," said Schultz, "and many of them are using the procedures as what I call 'practice management tools' — to keep clients coming in on an annual basis."

He said many vets send annual vaccination reminder postcards because they know that when the animal is brought in for shots, they can give it an important physical examination.

"The dogs ought to be coming in for the examinations, not shots," said Schultz.

And since all vaccinations are potentially harmful, it makes no sense to expose an animal to that risk when it already is immune, he said.

"Some vets argue that it's better to be safe than sorry, but if you turn that around, you might be sorry and not safe," he said. Most states require rabies vaccinations for dogs every three years.

U.S. vet bill tops $670 million

Nearly 45 million American households include dogs, more than any other pet, and the nation's canine veterinary bill runs more than $670 million a year, according to a survey by the American Pet Products Manufacturers Association.

In addition to the four deadly diseases, more than a dozen other "non-core" vaccines against diseases such as Lyme disease, intestinal parasites, kennel cough and others provide immunity that lasts only a year.

Vets often vaccinate for these ailments annually in large, multi-disease injections that Schultz says are often unnecessary.

If Lyme disease doesn't exist in your area, don't have your dog vaccinated for it, he said. If your dog is not going to be kenneled or boarded, don't have it immunized for kennel cough.

"They give a lot of these vaccinations in 'mambocombo' injections," he said. "Imagine what an assault it is to an animal's immune system to have 12 or 13 vaccines injected at once."

Although dog vaccinations, like human versions, kick-start the immune system to prepare antibodies and other immunity weapons for specific diseases, they can also be dangerous, Schultz said.

"The most common problem is anaphylactic shock," he said, referring to the devastating and often fatal allergic reaction, "but there are others. Some vaccines can actually cause the disease or other diseases."

Injections sickened cats

It hasn't happened in dogs, but a cat vaccine was found several years ago to be causing fatal tumors at the injection site. At the same time, an aggressive animal biologics industry keeps turning out new vaccines.

One company released a vaccine this year against Western diamondback rattlesnake bites and is working on a version for bites by Eastern diamondbacks, which have a different kind of toxin.

During a lecture on dog immunology at the annual meeting of the American Veterinary Medical Association, Schultz dismissed one commonly used vaccine — for a disease called canine corona virus — as "a cure looking for a disease."

Canine parvovirus became the fourth of the deadly "core diseases" in 1978 when a cat disease "jumped" to dogs, evidently because of their legendary fondness for cat feces.

"Thousands of dogs died, and veterinarians had never seen it before," Schultz said. "They were familiar with distemper, but they'd never seen this before."

Up to 80 percent of puppies with parvovirus die within 72 hours. A vaccine was developed immediately and was quickly used to control the disease.

The same year parvovirus appeared, Schultz reported that experiments in his Wisconsin lab indicated that vaccinations for distemper and canine adenovirus-2, which causes often-fatal hepatitis, appeared to last at least seven years. Further tests have since shown that parvovirus vaccine also lasts seven years, Schultz said.

E-mails on Vaccinating Your Dog:

I get a number of emails from people whose pets have severe reactions after being vaccinated. I will begin to post these emails in this article. If your dog has a reaction to being vaccinated I invite you to tell us your story.

Thanks:

Mr. Frawley,

I just wanted to say thanks for providing such valuable information on your web-site regarding raw diet and vaccinous. I have a 5 1/2 year old Shih Tzu mix who has been suffering from allergies since she was 6 months old.

We were adviced by our vet that her allergies were caused by food, enviornment and or the type of breed.  We tried everything, from fish & potato/veggie diets, steriods, Benadryl the list is endless. Oh, and I forgot to mention, that she was having severe reactions to the annual vaccines. (convinced that a simple antihistamine  pre-shot would do the trick) I write this now and shake my head that I didn't do somthing earlier. 

I had heard about feeding raw, and after reading a couple of books recommend  by you and also reading all the info you and Cindy have posted on your web-site. I decide to make the switch. WOW!  I think we hit the jackpot. Zena's been on a full raw diet since Aug 08, and well, I guess I don't need to tell you the rest.  As for the vaccines. We don't!...only 3 year rabies (need to keep the City of Ottawa By-law happy).

My vet thought I was crazy when I mentioned feeding raw, and really thought I lost it when I refused the annual vaccines. Let's just say I found a new vet.

We are so happy to have our puppy back.

Cheers,
Heidi

Question:

I took my 3 month old puppy to the vet and he received his worming and parvo shot. Two days later he went back to the vet because he was not his normal self (coming to me, playful etc.) They gave him an i.v. (and injected penicillin) for prevention of dehydration, he doesn't want to drink or eat now ( the next day). We're giving him syringes of fluids and chicken broth.

Are we doing correct? What else?

THIS DOG DIED THE NEXT DAY.

Puppy died 48 hours after puppy shots

I brought my healthy 5 1/2 month old beagle puppy to the vet for his rabies and reg. puppy shot. The vet said he was healthy all but for the redness in his ears from allergy, no ear mites or infection. The next day I noticed him laying there in the yard. I brought him in and he just layed there. He didn't want to eat, but drank a little. He couldn't jump on the couch so I would pick him up, before he got sick he jumped on our bed which was higher than the couch. He went into our bedroom and pottied on the carpet. His stool was very liquid, no substance to it, it just absorbed into the carpet. His stool was a redish brown and smelt horrible. The next morning he died. 48 hours after the vet visit he died. What does the shot do to have this type of reaction to a puppy or a dog? He couldn't get into anything in the back yard that would make him sick and if anyone tried to feed them anything harmful our golden would have wanted it first, she didn't want our puppy to get anything first. I'd love to know why this happened.
Karen

Ed's Answer on puppy that got a shot and died

I would tell the Vet you plan on suing him. He will hem and haw around but the dog died as a result of the vaccination.

Have an attorney write him a letter.

Vets need to be made accountable for the vaccinations they give. If they start getting sued they will pressure the companies that make the vaccinations.

I am sorry for your loss.

Question:

Mr. Frawley,

I am the proud owner of a 5 month old GSD, who is just perfect. I have ordered several items from your website including DVDs and wanted to express my thoughts regarding their quality; the DVD Building Drive and Focus is wonderful and the most info-packed few hours I have come across, ever. The real reason I am writing though is because I have been reading on your site about vaccinosis, and wanted to share my own story. I have a 13 yr old Border Collie. 2 ½ years ago she was diagnosed with liver cancer and had surgery to remove almost 80% of her liver. The vet didn’t think she would make it but after recovering awhile she was like a puppy again, she hadn’t been so active and happy in ten years. It seemed the cancer had been slowly draining her life for years but we had just assumed it was natural aging. About one year after the liver removal the same vet who operated on her gave her a vaccination booster. Within days she was almost dead. She went blind. She couldn’t walk. She could not even sit up. The vet blamed the liver cancer which was never completely beaten. After lying at death’s door for five weeks, blinds and immobile, (we hoped against hope she would recover, but were days from putting her down), one morning she stood up and walked to her water bowl. Over the next few days her vision returned. I am lucky to be able to say she completely recovered. After thinking it through I have absolutely no doubt the vaccination did all this to her. Even the cancer would not have swept down so terribly fast. Is the vet incompetent for giving this booster to a dog he knows has almost no liver? Or for giving it to a 12 yr. old dog? Or both? Or neither? I am interested in your opinion about all of this. Thank you so much. Love your website and videos

Andrew

ED'S ANSWER

Andrew

Well this is a difficult one. This vet saved the dogs life in recommending surgery. But with this said – to vaccinate this dog is just about the dumbest most stupid incompetent thing I have heard in a long time. Absolutely unbelievable.

We don’t vaccinate our dogs ever here. Not for anything. We feed a raw diet all natural diet and my vet bills have virtually gone away – I seldom have sick dogs.

Comment:

Hi,

A freind of mine had a litter of puppies at six weeks stop eating and they all die. Do you know what could happen to a litter after they are taking from the mother and then stop eating. This was a litter of yorkies. I dont know if this had anything to do with it but she was bathing them at this age. Also she started puting karo syrup in the water and that is when they stop eating but would drink the water. She also gave them shots and they were only like nine and ten oz. They were healthy before she remove the mother and did all this. Maybe this has nothing to do with it but it is some of the things she did. She had a shih tzu puppy that wouldnt eat that six weeks either.

Thank you,
Barbara

Ed's Answer

They died as a result of the vaccinations. There is no question about this.

We would never vaccinate puppies that young.

Question about senior dog problems after vaccination:

My 12 year old GSD, whom I had vac. by the vet community since a pup, was given a booster shot on 2/6. The next week he changed. He would not come out of his dog house and would growl at you if you touched the door to coax him out. Things only seemed to get worse from there. The dog whined as if in pain. He had no history of arthritis or other problems. In fact he was in very good health and very active. His whining grew into low mournful howling and even into constant non stop, non meaningful barking. (GS have a meaning behind every bark.) When we returned to the vet he showed me a test with is paw and stood it up on its toes. The dog did not move it. He would walk 4 or 5 feet and turn a right circle and repeat and repeat. Blood work showed nothing was wrong. I did not have x-rays because of the expense and because I knew in my heart that was not the problem. After reading your article, do you think that an older dog can have a reaction to shots. His booster in Feb was a Dist-Hep-Lepto-Para-Parvo-Corona Vacc. I put him to sleep in Late March.

Thank you,
Sally

My new puppy has just had his second set of puppy shots. Do I need to continue this?

Ed's comments on older dog's reaction to shots:

I think that any Vet that gives a 12 year old dog yearly vaccinations is a JERK - a money grubbing JERK !!

An old dog like this does not need a vaccination. If the vaccination does not kill him old age will anyway. The vaccination only hurts the dog's immune system.

Find a new Vet.

Emails on Vaccinating Your Dog:

Sir! I have sold a puppy. He was active and alert. He recieved his first shots and wormed on 06-12-02. The owver noticed he was starting to sleep alot and not eating very much. He called me and asked if any of my other puppies were having a reaction to the injection. They were not. He took him to vet and he was given antibiotics on Friday and told to wait and see if they work and to bring him back on Monday. He arrived at my door at 1:30 in the morning with the puppy who looked as if it was drunk, not being able to walk without falling. He told me the puppy started to become lathargic and not eating at all. The owner assures me the puppy was never left unattended to get into anything that he may have swollowed. I have taken him to my vet and explained what happened. He is not sure what is going on but is conducting a test for a possible reactoin to the puppy's first injection. I am wondering if you have ever come acros any problem like this. We are waiting for blood work to come back today to give us a little more insight on the possible problem. As a fairly new breeder, this is alarming to me. The puppy recieved a clean bill of health at 9 days when the injection was given. I feel bad for the owners but I am not sure if it is my responsibility for the care and cost of the puppy. Don't get me wrong, if it comes down to it I will give the owners back their money and will care for the puppy myself. His health is my number one concern. The owner has been a little rude with telling me he does not want to get into a long drawn out ordeal with the puppy's health and would rather put him down. But I am not going to let that happen if the vet states the puppy does not have to be put down. He also is getting bold with the vet blaming him for the puppy's condition, stating before the injection he was perfect. Thank you for your time in responding and your expertice in this field. Thanks again Charlie.....

ANSWER:

It certainly sounds like vaccinosis. I wish you luck and please let us know what happened.

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Emails on Vaccinating Your Dog:

My sheltie received proheart 6 in Feb (she was a year old), after that she started limping and tiring easily. The vet that gave her the shot thought she probably had dysplagia. We took her to another vet for an opinion. She xrayed her hips and knees and did blood work. The-xrays were normal, lupus titer was reactive, and one of her liver enzymes were off. She felt that she was having a reaction to the proheart 6. Unfortunately she gave her all her annual vaccines at the same time. It took her 12 hours to recover from the anesthesia (even though she had been given the antidote.) She then became very itchy and lost hair around her nose, mouth, and eyes. When that cleared up she developed a cough that was treated with antibiotics and improved. She still goes through lame and tired spells.

We just took her to another vet and she feels that she is a dog sensitive to vaccines and is doing a BNA on her and will titer her next year.

Emails on Vaccinating Your Dog:

Ed,

Hi there. I have a question that maybe you can answer for me. I have asked several vets and breeders, and none of them can.

A year ago, I did a repeat breeding between my Hungaian/W. German show/working lined bitch and a DDR/Czech lined working male (he is actually a dual service k-9 in one of the towns near my home). Anyway, after I bred her, I ended up leaving my husband. Well, I moved to an apartment complex, and she had the pups. 5 females, 3 males. Well, when the pups were 5 weeks old, the neighbors started complaining that they were noisy, so I was told that I had to get rid of them. I asked for another week, as I was in the process of weaning them, and got the week. At this time, 2 of the pups, the first pick female, and the second pick female went to thier new homes, and the remaineder of the litter was taken to my husband's place. I gave the six pups to him, and told him that all I wanted was for him to sign his name off Angel's papers, which he did. After he did that, I gave him all the papers, AKC registraiton, UKC registraiton, and tattoo-a-pet reigstration.

A week later, I went over to his place to help him take them to the vet for shots and health certificates, and they all looked healthy and were given clean bills of health. Well, that night, about 9, he called me and said that one of the pups had not eaten, but that was it, he was not vomiting, no diarrhea or anything, just did not eat. Well, I had seen puppies go off their food right after shots in the past, so I was not too worried. I just told him to watch him. 3 hours later, he called back and that pup was dead. He had just collapsed, and died.

I called my vet at home, and told him, he said that he wanted to see the 5 pups in the morning, so he opened the office at 9, even though it was Sunday, and looked at them, but could find nothing wrong. He took stool, blood, urine, and even spinal fluid samples, testing for everythnig. He took full body x rays, and MRI's. Well, he did not find anythng, and sent them home with another clean bill of health.

I did not hear anything from Kevin, so I figured that the pups were doing OK. However, a week later, Justin, the person that took the second pick female, called me, and told me that his pup had died the night before, She had not eaten dinner and had just collapsed. I called Kevin to see if he had a female that we could replace 'Anna' with, and he told me that all but one male had died, less than 2 days after they got the second clean bill of health. I asked him why he did not tell me, and he said that he didn't see the need to upset me. I called the vet, and he confirmed that on Monday, Kevin had brought one of the other males in dead, and he wanted to hospitalize the others, and the three females had died, in his care, though he did everything to save them.

The vet did a toxin screen, parasite test, and about 50 other tests and whatnot trying to find anything that would have killed the pups. he could find nothing abnormal, in any of them, and the results form hte puppies that died were identical to the male that had lived. Can you offer any insight as to any possible causes for death based on what I told you? There were no notable toxins of any kind, no traces of any sort of infection, or poison, all organs were perfectly normal, every test that he ran came back normal. This was a repeat breeding, with Angel and Kato, and the first breeding was 100% normal.

I know it is hard to do diagnostic over e mail, but if you have any insight at all, I would greatly appreciate it.

Thank you,
Sequoia Kennel
Breeder of Quality

Answer:

These dogs died as a result of a reaction to the vaccination. If I were you I would be speaking to a lawyer and I would expect that the company that made the vaccine and the Vet would pay for these dogs. This is a classic case of vaccinosis. What was the name and manufacturer of the vaccine?

Emails on Vaccinating Your Dog:

Hi There:

I originally came to the site to learn more about police dog training, after talking with my local canine officer, and wanted to compliment you on a wonderfully informative website, and especially for promoting the book "What vets don't tell you about vaccines."

Though I have not yet read the book, I had a very heartbreaking experience with a purebred puppy last year after vaccinating him and he became infected with and died of Canine Distemper - almost unheard of in our area of Illinois.

No one that I have spoken with makes any link between his disease and the vaccine but myself, and I will be interested to see what the author says (and other owners) say in their stories.

Thanks,
Lisa

Comment:

I was reading the articles that Ed had written on Vaccinosis. I had concerns about giving to many vaccines and boosters and thought that my pup would be ok if I just did the recomended protocal for puppy shots and first Rabies booster. I could not have been more wrong. After his last batch of puppy shots which included his first Rabies within 1 week I started having problems in fact I came here looking for training advice thinking it was the way I was handling my dog. I have a Siberian Husky and usualy they are not reactive to anything, he has vaccinosis. The reactions that came from the shots were skidish weak nerved behaivor, fear, slight aggresion issues and being highly reactive to everything. It got worse over a period of time but first showed up 1 week after. I called my vet and pushed him into a corner wanting answers about this situation. He was very cautious about what he told me BUT he did admit this was probably caused by vaccinosis. I now have him on a homeopathic remidy to eleviate his symptoms. I changed his diet to RAW on the advice of the homeopath and things are looking up. I just want everyone to know this is real. Titers will be done and there will be no more yearly vac's. No one can know how bad I feel because I allowed them to do this to my pup. DO YOUR RESEARCH AND DO IT WELL!

Ann

Emails on Vaccinating Your Dog:

I just was reading your web page on vaccinosis and you invited people to tell their story so I thought that I would.

I have had a Yellow Lab since she was 8 weeks old. She is now 8 months old. She had vaccinations at 6 and 8 weeks when I got her. I simply followed the veterinarian laid out vaccine protocal and had her vaccinated again at 12 weeks. Three days after that she broke out into hives all over her head, her previously light brown skin around her eyes and mouth turned bright red, she was itchy, vomitting and had diarrhea. We took her to the emergency vet clinic that night and they said she had an allergic reaction to "something", but did not know what it was. She was treated with a cortisone shot and a benadryl. The hives, itchiness and vomitting went away overnight, but the diarhhea continued. All conventional vets that we consulted insisted that it could not have been a reaction to the vaccine because it did not occur within 48 hours (it was 72 hours!).

She has had diarrhea ever since then. Despite spending hundreds, if not thousands of dollars on tests to determine what is wrong (with a conventional vet), we have no answers.

We recently consulted a well respected homeopathic vet (Dr. David Evans) who believes her problems are a result of the vaccine. He is giving her a homeopathic remedy. We have not yet seen positive results but are hopeful.

I am very upset and angered that the conventional vetrinarians do not warn us of these risks, or even consider the possibility in the case of something that seems so obviously to have arisen after the vaccination. It is like they are in denial.

Anyway, I just thought I would share my story.

Natalie

Ed

I read alot of your information because I was looking up vaccinations and found your site. I agree with your vaccination theories. I had my dog vaccinated before going to to on vacation. She was 12 years old and the vet gave her multiple shots because that is what the kennel required. The next day she was very sick - could not walk and always fell down and got worse the following day. Needless to say after multiple vet visits we had to put her to sleep and I do think for a fact it was from all the vaccinations given.

Lisa

Emails on Vaccinating Your Dog:

I came across your site and need some help.....my 1 yr old Yorkie needs help; at the age of 5 months he began itching....now to the point where he is lossing his hair.....he did have a bad reaction to one puppy shot that his breeder gave him......I refuse any vaccines except his rabies shot....I currently feed him Natural Balance roll.....very picky eater....he has been tested postive for enviromental allergies...also stated he was allergic to dairy products, brewers yeast; beet pulp; carrots.....vet has suggested I try feeding him deer meat; have spent thousands of dollars at such a young age....wondering about your products .....yucca aller g etc......I know allergies are very hard to deal with and no instant cure.....we have done allergy shots with no improvement......at my wits end.

Thank you in advance.

Cindy and Buddy

ED'S RESPONSE:

I would be feeding this dog meat – not what you are feeding. Yorkies don’t eat that much – feed it raw hamburger.

We do sell a book – Shock to the System.

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Emails on Vaccinating Your Dog:

Dear Mr. Frawley,

I just wanted to thank you. Because of information I read on your site, I've been able to find help for our miniature Australian Shepherd, Megha. With the use of your basic obedience video, the Bark limiter, and information on vaccinosis, I now feel there is no question we're on the road to recovery. Megha is currently being treated with homeopathy for fear aggression, and a rabies vaccine reaction. The results have been excellent, so far, most notably her decreased anxiety. I feel we're getting our dog back, instead of slowly losing her. I was at my wits end with her barking and fear aggression before discovering your site. You provide a wonderful service. I'm saddened that the vaccine program for pets is just as screwed up as it is for kids, but glad I'm now informed. I'll be more careful in the future!

Thank you again,

Anne

Emails on Vaccinating Your Dog:

Hi there,

I just wanted to state that I had a pure bred German Shepherd who was 1 year and 4 months old. I recently took him to his vet and he was given an exam and a rabies and distemper shot. His exam was normal as was expected as he was apparently a very healthy dog. He had no abnormal behavior or symptoms prior to the shot or even after. However, 2 days after the shots (almost to the hour of the shots) he collapsed and died.

I think the timing of the shots and my pup's death were more than coincidence.

Thank you,
Joe       

Emails on Vaccinating Your Dog:

Ed,

Thanks for all the great advice on your puppy training video, (we named our pup Zoe), and the toys I bought from you are very well liked my our little pup.

I have a medical concern and I getting different advice from everyone, I would really like to know what you think.

The day after I brought my pup home, at 8 weeks of age, I gave her heartworm and flea control "Advantage" on her skin as suggest by my vet. Her breed is a "Small Munsterlander", if that matters. The next day she had a seizure, full body, about 30 seconds. The next day she lost use of her right front leg for about 30 seconds. My vet says there is no connection to the seizures and the Advantage, because the Advantage is continually in her blood stream and she would keep seizuring until she was given an antidote.

By breeder suggested I return the pup and choose another one. I have. Now the question, do I give this new puppy the Heartworm and Flea control???

Please help,

Thanks,
Jennifer

ANSWER:

I don’t care what the vet says, or what the company that makes Advantage says. I would not be putting this stuff on an 8 week old puppy.

I would first wonder if the vet gave any vaccinations at the same time as the Advantage. If so then find another vet. Read the articles I wrote on Vaccinosis. The vet is fill of crap on his comment on the bloodstream – he is trying to cover his butt.

It’s a hard decision to return the pup. I can’t answer that one for you. It sounds like you have a good reputable breeder. I would be listening to her rather than the vet.

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Comment:

Ed,

I have an almost three year old German Shepherd born in Germany. Because of transportation, she received lot of shots. I want to breed her and made the mistake of allowing the vet to vaccinate her for Rabies when she was four days from flagging. She started with a vaginal discharge which gradually spread throughout her mammary glands - a bad fungus with probably a staph aureus infection. After much deliberation and trials with the vet, I started my own therapy. I was a registered medical technologist and reversed my own severe case of fibromyalgia which was initiated by appendicitis at the age of seven and overdosing of penicillin which caused a reaction. So I did with her what I did with myself and that is to strengthen her immune system which was broken down by the vaccinations.

I would strongly recommend that anyone facing this double infection not to start with the antibiotic because that is a fungal derivative which will make the fungal problem worse. Start with treating the fungus. Amazingly, I had a lot of success without using the Malaseb baths like they tell you every week. Chlorophyll kills fungus so I gave her Yeast Defense, Chlorella, Spirullina, Barley Green, and Olive Leaf and I would rotate them. In addition, I gave her probiotics to re-establish her intestinal flora because that flora has much to do with her immune system and the bacteria are destroyed with stress. She had biological stress. I made an ear wash of Olive Leaf tea which seemed to help her ears. I gave her a lot of human grade things like Nordic Naturals Omega 3, some CoQ10, etc. Fungus, uses certain nutrients to build up their cell walls and compete for that same nutrient which is used by the Schwann cells to build up the myelin sheath that covers the nerves. So bad fungal problems can lead to neurological problems such as balance and coordination, etc.

Anyone dealing with fungal problems or vaccine problems needs to strengthen the immune system because that is what has been attacked and it is the immune system which will fight off the disease. I reversed my own neurological problem which involved balance and coordination, etc. This does work.

Donna

Second Email:

Mr. Frawley

I wrote to you about my German Shepherd, Werna. She is the one who was vaccinated when she was in heat - too many vaccines of all kinds which broke down her immune system. I have all her records. She was born May 26, 2003. She died May 10, 2006. She looked pretty good had started to pick up weight, the fungus was gone, was eating well. I had her on Royal Canin German Shepherd formula because it addresses their pH problems. Her bowels were working and she did not have diarrhea. She went into heat and I found her dead this morning - died in her sleep. I took her to the vet that was trying to help her and they are going to order an autopsy at my request. She was from a high classed line - I have the pink papers on her. Her sire was Luigi vom Polarkreis (SchH3 FH1, "a" fast normal). Her dam was Doro vom Hammelsbacher Hof (SchH1, "a" noch zugel). She was born in Hemsbach, Germany.

These maniac vets must be stopped.

Donna

Lepto Vaccinations

Hi Ed,

Hope all is well with you. We have a 3 month old male GSD who developed inflammation of the joints, lethargy, fever 3 days after a DHLP vaccine with Lepto. x-rays show distinct inflammation of the joints. Vet has him on anti-inflammatory drugs which are doing no good. X-rays ruled out pano, HOD, etc. I seriously think that he is having a textbook reaction to the lepto vaccine. In your experience have you ever seen a pup with this reaction?

Karen

Lepto Vaccinations

There is little doubt that this is a result of the vaccination. We would never give a Lepto vaccination. For one thing there are something like 135 different strains of Lepto and the vaccination only covers about 3 or 4 strains.

In addition the Lepto vaccine is only good for 9 months - so dogs that are vaccinated by the fool vets who recommend yearly vaccinations have no immunity for 3 months of the year yet WE DON’T SEE DOGS GETTING SICK DURING THESE THREE MONTHS.

Don’t ever vaccinate this dog again.

Comment:

Hello, I have browsed your site and found much useful information on it. My dog is 4 1/2 mo old (GSD) and had been having occassional limping of the hind legs for a couple weeks. I brought him to the vet, she said wait a bit and see if it resolves. He had 3 vaccines: Lyme, Rabies and Distemper, I know this was not wise, but it happened and now I have to move on. Almost immediately after that he developed a severe limp on the right front leg. This persisted for several days with the vet saying it was probably Pano, until we brought him in for an xray. She diagnosed HOD.

Of course she's saying it's not related to the vaccines, and though distemper has been named, it hasn't been "scientifically proven." I'm becoming increasingly sceptical about our medical system, humans and animals, and can't help but wonder if the link is more than coincidence.

I'm writing you to get as much info about HOD in hopes of finding some direction to go in now. I'm feeding him Canidae at this time, but intend to research the raw diet. Thank you for any assistance you can provide. I'm also wondering if this was caused by the vaccine, if it will wear off in time. I am also seriously considering never vaccinating my dog again, I am so angry right now.

I have read the articles on Pano and vaccinosis. HOD is hypertrophic osteodystrophy which is a developmental disease that affects large breed dogs between 2 and 8mo of age. I am sick due to the fact that distemper vaccine has been named as a potential cause, though of course there's no "scientific proof." And like I said, after receiving those three vaccines is when it got to be the worst. I'm mostly looking for trustworthy references. Thanks again.

Stephanie

QUESTION on Vaccine Reaction:

Ed,

I am in need of any help you can provide. Not knowing about vaccinosis until two days ago I had my 8 year old ACD vaccinated. He was vaccinated for DHLP-Parvo (done yearly) until now and rabies (done every three years). Since being a puppy I have always had him vaccinated thinking I was doing the right thing. Therefore he has had this series of shots before without any problems as far as I know. He went for his annual checkup and vaccinations Saturday morning and had a seizure the following Monday afternoon and again Monday night about six hours later. Up until Monday afternoon this dog was fine and to the best of my knowledge has never had a seizure before. In researching after the fact I think his seizures were caused by the vaccinations. My vet treated him with rectal valium between seizures in hopes of preventing additional ones. Tuesday morning we again went to the vet for blood work to see if anything was out of the norm. The results of the blood work came back “extremely good” and the vet felt it was neurological. Interestingly my vet made mention of the fact that the seizures were strangely close to the vaccinations but, felt it was coincidence. I don’t, after my research I am almost certain it was the shots. He started my dog on a low dose Phenobarbital therapy to prevent future seizures. That I went along with until I could get some additional information. I have an appointment with another vet Tuesday of next week and follow-up with my vet in two weeks for blood work. What I need to know is if the seizures were caused by the vaccinations will the seizures stop on there own or will Pb or some other drug be needed from now on? I am at a loss for information regarding the proper protocol if seizures were caused by the shots or how to determine if they were. I don’t want my dog dependant on drugs and exposed to future harm that my be caused by them. So far there have been no additional seizures and I pray there wont be. Just FYI the first seizure was extremely sever and lasted longer (several minutes) than the second one which was not as sever and shorter (1 to 1 ½ minutes). Any help would be greatly appreciated. Since my experience with this I will become very vocal in my community about vaccinosis.

Thanks,
Dave

ANSWER:

I don’t believe in coincidences like this. These seizures were vaccination related. Get the exact name and manufacturer of the vaccination.

I would file a complaint with the people listed in the article on my web site.

Tell your Vet why you are going elsewhere. Until these Vets accept some responsibility for this crap nothing will be done. If they lose enough business they will think twice about what they are doing. I will add your email to the article.

I know nothing about seizures. I have never had a dog that has had one. My web board has over 9,000 registered members – feel free to post this information there – I am sure some of them will have answers for you. It takes a few days to get registered.

Question:

Hi Ed,

My question and concern is vaccination and causing allergies.I have a 15 week old golden retriever and since the day I brought him home he has has diarrhea (pudding like). Had his first set of shots the day before we brought him home from the breeder. I thought the diarrhea was from being scared, I gave him pumpkin in his food and amodium ad started feeding him wellness puppy food, helped some but continued to have soft stools (like pudding) He was due for his 12 week check up and distemper/parvo shot and second worming which they said was standard procedure. Still having diarrhea they gave me a prescription for Flagyl 250mg to firm his stool and it did work but when the med. ran out the diarrhea started in again. So he has been using this now for almost two weeks now and with in the last couple of days he has now developed a "skin infection"on his belly , under arms and legs. Looking like small yellow pimples and when they pop they scab. And also hes loosing hair near his ear/temple area. So off to the vets we go today and they say he has a skin infection caused by a immature immune system that has been compromised by his diarrhea maybe. And that he may have a mite that's causing his hair loss, and to find out if indeed he does have them that they would need to do a skin scrap and test it under a microscope. Which would be a painful experience for obvious reasons. They prescribed an antibiotic for his skin rash and an antihistamine for his itching. So now he has to take 3pills 2x A day. I chose to wait on the skin test, they wanted me to buy their science diet food and said that it was very important that he be on front line to prevent any other skin problems due to flees or ticks( that he does not have). Im feeling a little over whelmed with what to do to care for my puppies problems. my instincts were always to trust your vet, why not, but now after reading hours on your web sight I beginning to question whether they truly have his or their best interest at heart. If you could give me some direction I would greatly appreciate it. I truly value your opinion.

Thank you for your time,
Heather

Question:

Hi Mr. Frawley,

I recently purchased the 8wk - 8mo pup DVD. It was wonderful.

On Saturday I took my puppy to get vaccinces, On sunday he started vomitting. He puked about 7 times last night and 20 minutes after his evening walk he peed all in his crate. He NEVER pees in the crate let alone 20 miuntes after being let out. He was fine through out the night and then this morning he puked 2 more times. I phoned the Vet that gave him his vaccines and they said this not a reaction to the vaccines. His diet has not changed and I don't know what it could be. Any Suggestions?

Nicole

Ed's Answer

This Vet is full of crap. Find a new Vet, if the dog dies sue this vet (for a lot of money), tell them why you will never go back.

It's one thing to admit the dog had a reaction. It's another to lie about it. I get really sick of Vets that push these vaccinations. They don't deserve to be in business.

QUESTION on Licking:

Hi,

I have a 7 yr old Great Pyrenees, Chow and Aust. Shepherd mix. – He is a rescue. – We have had him since he was about 12 wks old. We also have two Affenpinscher rescues that we have also raised from puppies. One is 4 the newest is 1 year old. Sammy, the Senior dog has never been aggressive or alpha in anyway. Always eager to please and very patient with the “Affies” and playful. In the last 3 months he has started licking his back paw and has managed to bring up a “lick granuloma”. I can think of nothing that has changed in his routine and he doesn’t seem stressed or bored. We play and do all the activities we have done in the past. As you know “lick granulomas” are a nightmare to heal. E-cones don’t work. We have decided to try a muzzle. What is the best way to train him to get used to it? We have purchased a “cage” style muzzle of soft “rubber”. It allows him to pant, bark, drink etc. Do I need to pad the muzzle in any special way? Do I start tight and loosen as he gets use to it? Do I leave it on him all the time I am with him? And yes when I am at work the muzzle is on. There are few days, however, that he is alone more than 4 hours just because of family schedules. Any help you can give would be greatly appreciated and yes we are in constant communication with our vet. We really want to get this healed and hopefully break the licking habit.

Thanks so much for your attention.

Mickie

ANSWER:

A muzzle will not solve your problem. You need to get to the cause.

More than likely this is caused from vaccinations. Read the article I wrote on Vaccinosis. Your vet may disagree. Vets over vaccinate dogs – they don’t need yearly vaccinations and they cause more problems (like this) than they help.

If it were my dog I would NEVER vaccinate it again and I would put it on a all-natural diet. Read the Q&A article on feeding a raw diet.

In my opinion these are your only possible solutions. Don’t put the dog on steroids – it already has an immune problem.

Finally find a different vet – one that is more holistic.

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QUESTION on Sick Pup:

hello, hope all is well, I was hoping you could give me some advice, last weekend we went out of town, we left the puppies at Marvels parents house, I thought that would be a good idea since they need more supervision. Well when we came back we found out the puppy got his foot caught in the crate, which has never happend. well he was limping on his front right paw. he got his paw caught on saturday and on monday he was not moving alot and sleeping more than usual and his appetiete decreased. That evening we took him to the emergency vet, she said looks like he twisted his foot, she gave us some remedel, well mon through wed he would sleep all day but in the evening he would play a little.we took him to the vet on thursday and they gave him a rabies shot and checked him out. on friday he threw up in the morning and did not eat breafast, we took him to the vet, he was not limping so the vet ran a parvo and some other test which came back negative, they where not sure what is wrong, on saturday he threw up in the morning, i noticed his hips where sore and he walked funny in the back, I tried putting a heating pad on his hips also massage them. Both friday and saturday he ate fine in the evening. This morning he got up on his own and went to the bathroon he was limping really bad on his back left foot, he would not really touch his dry dog food so I gave him a hot dog and his remedel. I was just wondering what you would suggest.

Thank you

Kristi

ANSWER:

Find a new set of VETS – these vets have their heads up their asses – ALL THE WAY UP.

Any vet that gives a Rabies shot when the dog's immune system is already stressed on another matter is a God damned fool and only interested in making money and not healing animals.

The throwing up is probably Vaccinosis – you can read about it on my web site.

As far as the foot – I would have kept the pup in the dog crate and given a baby aspirin twice a day.

Stop the Rimadyl – it’s a terrible drug. There are very bad side effects that vets don't tell people about.

COMMENT:

Okay, well after finding this site and doing research I went in search of a holistic vet. Fortunatley, I found one..... just not soon enough. I have a 10 wek old GS, 1 yr lab/chow mix, and a 2 yr old cat. In December our cat went to the vet and they did all the vaccines and the whole 9 that is "recommended" on my cat. About a week ago I noticed that she was not herself, very lethagic, not eating, and has a distened abdomen... So, since I now found my new vet I called and took her ion last night... It is too late. She is in her final stage and treatment will only prolong for a small time and she will just suffer longer. (I know this is my cat, but i wanted to let people know how real this is) They drew 65cc's out of her belly and pushed fluids sub q. he gave us some homeopathic meds to help with pain and possibly getting her appetite back. But she will not make it. The vaccines has caused a reaction her body could not handle, she has fluid in her belly, which has pushed her diaphram so its hard to breath, which has pushed on her heart, etc.etc. I will now be losing one of my babies... PLEASE..if you dont think it can happen, please do your research!!! I know have to explain to my 3 yr old, 5 yr old, and 8 yr old, they best buddy is gone!
I am so thankfull to Mr. Ed Frawley for having this information... I may have lost all my friends if I didn't find his site! I REFUSE TO VACCINATE!!!!

QUESTION:

Hello Ed,

My name is Jo Ann and I happened on your site in search of some new info on dog food. Your site caught my eye mainly do to the way you feel on vaccines. I have always felt we were getting carried away with all the junk we were expected to give our puppy/dog for a healthy life. Over the years it has become a drug for everything world!

My question is How do you feel about Heartguard and Frontline? We now live in Kansas and were told that we need to use Heartguard. I was also informed that ticks are in abundance out here especially in the warm weather. So any info would be great.

Thanks Jo Ann

ANSWER:

We try to keep our dogs as chemical free as possible. We don’t use any topical flea and tick control on our dogs, and IF we do give Heartworm meds we give the minimum dosage every 6 weeks instead of every 4 like the vets suggest. Even though we live in the land of mosquitoes (Wisconsin) we do not have them here at our place.

Giving heartworm prevention is a personal choice, I feel that a dog with a strong immune system can resist heartworms and other parasites, just like they fight off disease.

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QUESTION:

Hello, I would like your opinion on the bordetella and the rabies vaccinations.

I have an 11 week labradoodle puppy “Dante” who received his 2nd parvo/distemper shots on Tuesday. On Wednesday night, he had diarrhea. I called the vet who said it was hard to say if it was the vaccine that caused the diarrhea because puppies often eat things they shouldn’t and have sensitive stomachs. He is on an all white rice diet for the next few days to help plug him back up. His stools are slowly becoming more “poop shaped” than “soup shaped” but I suspect the vaccinations have a role to play in why he had loose stools in the first place. I should also mention that he is still his same self – still has a very big appetite, still wants to play and run around – the only difference is he has the runs. I have done research on vaccinosis and even vets who don’t recommend yearly boosters still recommend the first 3 parvo/distemper shots and rabies where required by law, which is why I went ahead with them. He is scheduled to receive his final parvo/distemper shot on May 8th, along with bordetella and rabies.

I would like to participate in group obedience classes and agility classes with Dante and in order to do so, he MUST have these shots (including bordetella). I have seen that they are now vaccinating against bordetella with nose drops – are these safer? Also, should I break up these vaccinations so my puppy is not receiving all these shots at once? Obviously my puppy’s health comes first but I am concerned that I cannot participate in any dog activities if he does not receive these vaccines. Is there something I can give him directly after the vaccines to help minimize any potential side effects?

Please help!

ANSWER:

For information on vaccinations and the problems they cause please read our vaccinosis article. Read the emails from people who have had their puppies get sick or die after vaccinations.

I would also recommend these 2 books, Shock to the System and Vaccine Guide for Dogs & Cats.

We don’t vaccinate our dogs and puppies, and in my opinion your puppy is already overvaccinated. Read the information on these pages, and learn more about what is really necessary. Vets push vaccines because that is their means of income. For your vet to tell you that the vaccines could not be cause of your puppy’s diarrhea is unprofessional.

The only means of minimizing vaccine side effects is to not give the vaccines.

QUESTION:

Hi, I've been reading about reactions from vaccines on your site. I had my first litter of Boston Terrier Puppies Feb 22nd. They were all healthy, and very playful, normal stools. They recieved a DA2PP vaccine at 6 weeks old.

My biggest female on the second day after starting having diarrea, vomiting, and acting tierd, she was acting like she had parvo, but was still eating, and drinking only not as well. She started acting like she felt better, and the stool started firming up to a pudding like consistancy, then relaps and the stool turned watery again, so I took her back to the vet, and she is now on Clavomax, but Im not sure it is helping. Her stool starts to firm, then gets runny again, so we went back to the vet again, and they sent a stool sample to a lab, which came back clear of any parasite. My vet doesn't know whats wrong, and said if it isn't better by Monday he would try a different antibiotic. Also the clavomax makes her vomit. Do you think this is a reaction from the shot, and if so will the antibiotics help? What can I do to help her?

Thank You so much for sharing your experiences, and knowledge.

Sadie

ANSWER:

We don't vaccinate our puppies here, but if we did there is no way we would do it at 6 weeks old. This is way too young.

I would recommend these 2 books, Shock to the System and Vaccine Guide for Dogs & Cats to educate yourself further about vaccines and their dangers.

Antibiotics can not undo damage done by vaccines. Antibiotics are for bacterial infections, and giving them "just because" is a poor reason. Many times antibiotics can cause diarrhea.

I don't know what state you live in, but I would recommend you get this puppy to a vet that is trained in homeopathy. We have a list of Holistic vets by state that you can check out.

You can also do a google search for homeopathic or holistic vets in your state if you don't find one on our list.

We are not health care professionals, so we can't give any advice on what you should do in cases like this.

Personally, I would find a different vet.

QUESTION:

I have come across your site while doing research regarding vaccines and puppies. I have an 11 week old Great Dane. He went in for a vet exam and was given his vaccinations on a Monday. On Thursday, he wasn’t acting himself, not eating or drinking and refusing to play. I called the vet immediately and took him into the office. The vet stated that he had parvo and had to of gotten it from the vaccine. The vet called the manufacturer of the vaccine and explained the situation to the manufacturer. The vet came back into the exam room and sent me home with a bag of needles and iv fluids as well as centrine and metronidazole. The vet also stated that the manufacturer was taking care of the bill, up to $500. I do not understand any of this and am asking for your input.

As for the puppy, he is doing well. I had to have him on subq. Iv fluids for 6 days but he has been doing well for the past 3 days. He is eating and drinking on his own and back to typical puppy antics.

He is due for more vaccines in three weeks and needless to say, I am terrified and not sure what to do, even with all of the research I have been reading.

Thank you for all the information on your site and your time.

Kay

ANSWER:

I am glad to hear your puppy is doing well. I went through a whole litter getting parvo after a vaccine and it’s very upsetting. You are fortunate in the regard that the manufacturer is taking at least some responsibility for your puppy’s illness. That’s highly unusual!

I would not vaccinate your puppy for anything! This could be very dangerous. His immune system has just taken a huge hit, and vaccinating him would just stress him more. One thing is for certain, your puppy is now immune to parvo anyway after surviving the disease.

For information on vaccinations and the problems they cause please read our vaccinosis article.

I would also recommend these 2 books, Shock to the System and Vaccine Guide for Dogs & Cats.

I would build up your puppy’s immune system through good food, here is some info for you to read. Read our article on feeding a raw diet. It’s a work in progress but there is a lot of good information there.

I would also recommend these books, Natural Nutriton for Dogs & Cats and Raw Dog Food.

You can also go to our Feeding Dogs Page for a list of articles and books that will be helpful to you.

Hope this helps! Good luck with your puppy.

QUESTION:

Hi there,

My two border collies have just had a litter of 7 puppies and I am looking for any advice you can give me. I am in the process of moving to a farm in the mountains of southern spain and intend to keep all the puppies. My main concern is vaccinations and your page on vaccinosis is not available. Can you please help me with this as I do not wish to worm them which is due now and I do not want to vaccinate them in a few weeks, but I need to know more about the subject and there is so little information available. The puppies are on a 100% raw diet which I know stands them in good stead but I want the best for them all. Any information will be greatly appreciated.

Could you also give me any advise on the scenario of keeping 7 dogs with mother and father, in specific, the behaviour of the pack and the essential training needed. I intend to teach the all agility and flyball for fun, and there will be animals such as horses and goats on the farm.
I look forward to hearing from you,

Thanks very much,
Clifford

ANSWER:

I would recommend these 2 books,  Shock to the System and Vaccine Guide for Dogs & Cats.

Keeping and raising a litter of 7 is a huge job!  Why are you keeping all of the puppies?  I hope you have the set up to keep the pups separate and the time to work with each of them individually or they will become more dog oriented than people oriented. You are going to have a large dog pack on your hands and it will require a lot of work to manage this. Here is an article on why we don’t recommend raising more than one puppy at a time.

I would recommend you purchase the dvd titled Your Puppy 8 Weeks to 8 Months.

Ed has owned and trained German Shepherds for 45 years. In the past 30 years we have bred over 350 litters of working bloodline German Shepherds. We give this video to all of our puppy customers and we never get questions on how to raise a pup.

Read the description of this puppy DVD on my web site. Dog training is not rocket science its simple common sense ideas on how to handle and train a dog,  The DVD has 2 ½ hours of training information along with 15 puppy training articles that I have written.

You should also consider the 4 hour DVD on Basic Dog Obedience.  I recommend the handlers start studying this DVD right away even though you won’t use some of this training material for several months (usually not until the pup is 4 to 6 months old).

I also recommend that you go to the web site and read the article  on “Ed’s Philosophy of Dog Training.” I believe you will not only learn something about dog training, I hope you will also adopt the same philosophy on dog training.

Hope this helps.

Question about Coccidia Medication:

Hello Ed,

I raise German Shepherds, and I have a puppy which I think has coccidia.
One of the puppies I sold is being put on a drug for it:
Rx # 34267
Rx: P Alborn liquid
Mfg: Pfizer

But I'm not very big on medications or vaccinations. I found a natural cure for it, but I would like to know your opinion on it, and if you think it will work. Here is the link to the website:
http://wolfcreekranch1.tripod.com/coccidia.html that has it for sale. But if you know how to rid of it, I would rather do it your way. Also, how do you disinfect the kennels? I know you can use ammonia, but I don't really like using all those chemicals. Thanks for your time and I look forward to your reply.

Angie

ANSWER:

There is nothing wrong with Alborn. We use it with our pups. We don't vaccinate either but this is not the same. There is a huge difference between putting a virus into your dog and putting medicine in the dog.

QUESTION:

I have a 4 month old neutered male German Shepherd.  He has been chasing his tail and self-multilating it for nearly a month.  We have tried so many things to make him stop but he will not.  He has seen a vet and it is considered a behavioral problem since it only goes on when he is not with us and continues when he is out with the other dog or alone outside.  We are at the end of our rope and the pup is living in an E-collar to avoid infection and amputation, which is no way to live. My aunt purchased your progaram to train her GSD and has had great success.  I am hoping for the same results.  Do you think a "shock collar" is the way to go with this issue?.

Thank you-

Jennifer

ANSWER:

The first thing that jumps out at me is that your pup is already neutered at 4 months.  This is WAY too young.  We don’t recommend neutering til 18 to 24 months.  We feel that dogs need their hormones for proper physical and psychological development.

This dog has developed a neurotic behavior to cope with stress and/or anxiety and vent his frustrations.  I would consider finding a reputable homeopathic vet to help deal with the issues you are seeing.  In the meantime, I would be training this dog and giving him lots of structured exercise.  I would NOT allow him to be in the situations that you know will trigger his tail chasing.  I would use a remote collar on him to break the pattern.  The challenge is you need to have good timing and correct him every time.   Does he do this behavior in a crate also?

When was the last time this pup was vaccinated, and what vaccines did he have?  Vaccinosis can manifest itself through behavioral issues like this.  I would not rule out a link to vaccine damage (unless he has never been vaccinated before)  here is an article on vaccinosis for you to read.  http://leerburg.com/vaccinosis.htm

QUESTION:

I need help coming up with answers.Two litters of Labrador Retriever  puppies have gotten sick 15 puppies total in both litters 6 puppies were never affected. I am working with two local Vets. Had a viral intestinal problem that was very Parvo like in symptoms but Lab results are negative for Parvo, pathology showed virtually diagnostic typical for Parvo. Could this be vaccine induced disease? And is there anyway to prove or disprove that this was related to the vaccination. Is there any test that can be run that would really prove or disprove that they had the disease or if they did it came from the vaccination?
 6th and 11th of June Healthy puppies vaccinated  (pups were 6wks old)
 13th loose stools noticed
 14th started panacur (assuming parasite) 
14th puppies eating less
16th noticed first thinning puppy
18th noticed first vomiting
19th Vet visit (Giardia detected all dogs placed on Metranidozole) puppy given sub q
20th 2 puppies die one in just hours from dehydrating (pups were checked hourly for dehydration)
21st 3rd puppy dies at Vet's sickest puppies put on subq

symptoms included bloody stools, some with shooting diarrhea (no Parvo smell), some with a light custard colored stool, some puppies were vomiting, varying degrees of dehydration, not eating, some went downhill quickly (in hours not days)  several of the puppies have a hacking almost like something is caught in their throat three puppies that died pattern was dehydration, fever, involuntary lose of bowel movements then death.

first puppy that showed signs has recovered without medical attention , second puppy was first to visit Vet Giardia was found and suspected culprit all dogs and puppies placed on Metranidozole. Puppy sub q'd , penicillin and antivomiting meds given puppy continued to decline despite care and died after 2 days, two more puppies got very sick and within hours died . One of those puppies died while at the Vet's office. He was autopsied.  Vet found everything but colon was perfect. Pathology says virtually diagnostic for Parvo.  No worms giardia, cocci, or Campylobacteriosis found in puppy.... We had 5 more puppies in varying degrees of health being sub q'd 3x a day, all puppies (and ever other dog I own) on Metranidozole, all puppies were getting penicillin as well.

Puppies were given Metranidozole and Cephaflexin , for two weeks following and just yesterday received their clean bill of health (thank goodness!) I appreciate any kindness you can show by giving any information or guidance. I cant help but keep going back to the vaccine because each litter started showing signs of illness 7 days from vaccination... the vaccine was the Ft Dodge Duramune Max 5
Thank you,

Barbara

ANSWER:

I’m sorry to hear about all the problems you have been having.  I know that it’s a horrible thing to deal with.

First of all, 6 weeks old is WAY to young to vaccinate puppies, especially with a combo 5 way vaccine.  I don’t believe you are ever going to be able to prove or disprove that the vaccines caused the illness in your dogs, but I would say that is the most likely cause.  The only litter I have dealt with that had parvo was vaccinated 5 days prior to showing symptoms.  That was the last litter I ever vaccinated for anything.

Vets and vaccine companies will absolutely deny that a vaccine can cause illness, but even if your pups don’t get the actual disease you are vaccinating for their poor immune systems take such a huge hit with all the crap in the vaccines.   At 6 weeks old they should still have maternal protection from mom’s milk, and vaccines put them at risk.

For information on vaccinations and the problems they cause please read our vaccinosis article.

I would also recommend these 2 books,  Shock to the System and Vaccine Guide for Dogs & Cats. 

We don’t vaccinate our dogs any more, I would rather fight a disease I know than deal with damage caused by vaccines.

COMMENT:

Hello!

I was just looking at German Shepherd puppies when I decided to click on your Vaccinosis page.  I read the whole thing from top to bottom and I can't tell you "Thank you" enough!  I work for a vet, and he recommends that puppies get shots at 6, 8,12, and 16 weeks.  I personally never saw the point in it!  Last year, I got a Border Collie puppy in February that was 6 weeks old.  I took him to the vet that I now currently work at when he was about 12 weeks to get him dewormed.  He informed me that I was "WAY OVERDUE" to get him his DA2PP shots.  I basically said, "Do whatever it is you feel you need to do."  I had NO idea about the risks to vaccinating puppies!  The day after his first shot, he was VERY lethargic.  I though he was going to die.  He would not eat, would not drink, was vomiting, his stool was runny... He was not a happy camper.  I called the vet, and he said that he will be fine, he probably just ate something.  He was not the hyper little Border Collie that I had for the 6 weeks before... I had a feeling it was because of the vaccination, so he did not get another one.  Finally, after about 3 weeks of feeling like this, he started to get better.  He was once again my happy puppy!  He turned into an awesome dog... I swore I would never have another dog that wasn't a Border Collie.. (And here I am looking at German Shepherds :) ) But a few months ago, he was not quite a year old, my collie died.  Everyone thinks he got hit by a car, but he had no sign of trauma, and he just looked like he was sleeping under a tree... Not to mention, we live in a very rural area where there is not a lot of traffic, and he had over 180 acres to run on...  It was not likely that he would choose a road... Do you have any ideas if something could have happened that late after the time he was vaccinated?  Again, thank you for your article.  I am never vaccinating another one of my dogs!  It is nothing but a waste of time and money!

Thanks :)

QUESTION:

Hi Ed,

I just came across your site today and found the section about diarrhea in puppies and natural diet very helpful.  I have a 5 month old sheltie and I noticed that he began to have diarrhea after his second round of vaccinations. First it was only on the weekends, and I thought it's due to the deworming medicine that the vet gave him, but now it's almost every other day.  I brought him to another vet recommend by someone in puppy training class. and that vet told me that I gave him too many vaccinations, like the lyme disease one which was probably not needed.  She thought the diarrhea might due to his food and gave me a diet dog food, but after reading through the ingredients it was too unhealthy so I didn't start him on it.   What do you think of this? should I bring him to the vet to do some fecal tests? The one I did last time came out fine. Could it be the vaccinations that cause this?  I was mad at the first vet too because he didn't tell me anything and prior to that, I do know know what they need to get and so agreed to the puppy package.  I am so worried that he might have got too many shots at once.  Also, I told him that second day I got the puppy that the breeder gave him a shot just two days ago and that he only needed one more, but regardless what I said. they went ahead and gave him three shots of different vaccines.  And he totally disregard the fact that the puppy had shots just two days ago and they are suppose to wait two to three weeks before receiving any other shots.  when I confronted the hospital about this later (after talking to the breeder and some research online), the nurse told me that the vaccines are dead so it would not cause harm.  Urgh! I am just afraid that all these shots  might have done him harm instead of good.  He was only about 5 lbs then. The poor little thing... so bottom line is, I don't know if his diarrhea can be due to the vaccines or something else. Any advice is appreciated. Thank you.

ANSWER:

This is an example of a really stupid vet. A real stupid vet.

Find another vet – there are many good ones out there.

I cannot help you with medical opinions on what to do to fix his. I wish I could – call the idiot vet and send him this. Because if I had his name and address I would put it on my web site under vaccinosis.

RESPONSE:

Thank you for the reply, I really appreciate it because I have this anger in me about such irresponsible and uncaring vets that I don't know who to tell. But to prevent other pet owners to be deceived, here is the name of the hospital: American Animal Care Center in Fremont, CA.

Another thing they did that made me mad was during my second visit. One morning, I found a tiny bug on my sheltie's coat. I don't know what it is, could just be an ant. but I didn't want to take chances so I brought him to them immediately to check for fleas or ticks. Well, the vet did not bother to check if he really has fleas or not and asked if I want to give him a flea bath. I was naive and didn't know anything so I agreed.  so they gave him a flea bath(poor baby, he's very scared of baths!)and prescribed Revolution for flea control. Well, it was not until I told the breeder about this that I realized the flea bath was not necessary because Revolution would have killed them anyway!  The thing is, the vet should at least use a special comb to see if he indeed have fleas! Also, my little boy was still under 5 lbs then but they gave me a 5 - 10 lbs application of the Revolution. ugh!! the more I think about this, the more unjust this is. I can't believe such people are allowed out there practicing animal medicine when they don't even care about the welfare of the animals!

Sorry this has to be so long, it's just that I have the anger inside me and I have to tell someone, someone who can make a difference.

Question:

I am a new and very inexperienced yet proud Yorkshire Terrier owner.  I came across your site from doing a google search.  After reading your advice regarding puppy training and crate training, I immediately went out and purchased a crate for our 7 week old Yorkie.  I have been keeping him in the crate with the door closed and only coming out to relieve himself, exercise & play and to eat & drink. 

When I purchased Sam, our Yorkshire Terrier from the breeder, she stated that we should not put him on the ground (grass) until 3 days after his 3rd shot, in order to prevent Parvo, is this something that you've heard of?  Is there any truth to that regarding Yorkies?

Any of your wisdom and expertise knowledge would greatly be appreciated for I have really fallen for this little guy and I want to right by him by all means.

Thanks so much!

Daphne 

Answer:

For the vaccinations and putting the puppy on the ground, I totally disagree with the breeder.  As a breeder myself, I believe that in order for a puppy to be well socialized and well rounded they need to get out in the world.  Use common sense, don’t take him to a dog park or a pet store or a vets office (places where large numbers of dogs go to the bathroom)  there is nothing wrong with putting him in the grass outside or playing with him in the yard.  

We don’t vaccinate our puppies at all, educating people about the side effects from vaccinations and the damage they can do is something we are very dedicated to.  For information on vaccinations and the problems they cause please read our vaccinosis article.

I would also recommend these 2 books,  Shock to the System and Vaccine Guide for Dogs & Cats. 

Hope this helps.

Question:

Ed Frawley,

I was given your name by a fellow dog handler and he suggested I notify you of the problem I had with the snake vaccine.

I am a dog handler and work in south Georgia where there is a strong possibility of my dog or myself being bitten by a venomous snake.

I have three German Shepherd Dogs and the two older dogs had been vaccinated the year before and had the booster and had no ill effects.  My new dog two year old healthy female was vaccinated also.  About three days after the shot she showed signs of lethargy and lack of appetite which was very unusual for her. The following day I took her to my usual vet, not the vet who administer the shot as he did not carry the vaccine, and upon blood testing she showed her red cell count was down to 13% and I understand it was supposed to be a minimum of 45%.

The vet immediately sent her to The University of Georgia Vet School into intensive care. She was diagnosed with immune-mediated hemolytic anemia.  She received blood transfusions and treatment.  After a week I brought her home and was instructed to give her large doses of Prednisone. They also started a treatment for tick borne diseases (Doxycycline) while awaiting the results of the tick titer.  This treatment was continued for the next 4 weeks.  She did improve in blood count, at one time up to 28% but the drugs were very hard on her.  Extreme thirst and continual urination.  We thought she was coming back and were looking forward to the discontinuation of the drugs.

Shortly thereafter her condition deteriated rapidly.  And by the time we got her back to the vet her blood count was down to 10%.

After consultations with several vets at UGA and our local vet they determined she could not be saved.  She was put down 5 weeks after the vaccination.

I would be interested in hearing any other info you have heard about this vaccine.

I thought I was protecting her and had no idea of any side effects that would have fatal results.

I can send you detailed reports from the University about her treatment if that would be helpful in research into the case.

Thanks for your interest.

Dee

Answer:

Dee

This is a classic case of Vaccinosis. Your Vet should know better – he has not done his research.

Just yesterday I got an email from a person whose dog died from the snake vaccination. If I were you I would sue the Vet and the vaccine company.

We don’t vaccinate our dogs. We don’t sell dogs to people who don’t agree not to vaccinate.

In my opinion you would have been wiser to snake proof your dog with a remote collar.

Comment:

Been reading vaccinosis on your website and I am glad that information is there.  I am now using the distemper nosodes homeopathic.