Question
Hi Mr. Frawley,
I, like the hundreds of others who have e-mailed you, have an aggressive dog. We found her when she was ~1 year old. She is now 3. She never showed any signs of aggression until she encountered one of my sisters dogs. This dog really gave her a run for her money the weekend they were together. I was stupid to think I could put these two females in a yard together and expect them to get along. To this day I regret that mistake. We just recently brought a new puppy home and again I expected them to get along without any problems and again I was wrong. Our older dog attacked the puppy several times, drawing blood each time, but the third time she bite the puppy so hard it broke his leg. All the attacks seemed to be food related. What bothers me is she gives no warning sign, she just attacks. The last time she attacked the puppy there was no food involved. I had just gotten out of bed and let the puppy out of his crate to go outside and he walked over to her and woke her up. Within a nano second she had him pinned on the ground and was growling. Her aggression towards other dogs seems to be getting worse. She used to just pin the dogs but not bite. I have broken up all of these fights the wrong way and after reading your articles have seen how very lucky I am for not being bitten. I ,like many, have had several vets tell me to put her to sleep, but through reading your answers to others questions am beginning to think this is my problem not hers. Am I right in thinking that? or does she have weak nerves. She has never shown any type of aggression towards humans, but fear she might since she is so aggressive towards dogs. Will her dog aggression eventually turn into human aggression? I am afraid that when my husband and I have kids she will be aggressive towards a toddler who finds the bone she is eating interesting. Is that a possibility? What can I do to correct the inappropriate behavior? She knows what I expect of her, but when she attacks nothing I say will get her attention. I am incredibly stressed about how to handle this situation and appreciate your bluntness to these matters. Is this correctable or are the vets right in putting her down. Thank you for you time!
Alexis
Answer
This is not herding problems it's rank and pack structure problems. This pup will now be dog aggressive for the rest of its life. This problem was 100% preventable. While this is a very common problem it's very sad.
Question
Ed
I had an awful experience today. I found my 1 year old German shepherd female eating the head off of my husbands 7 week old beagle puppy. She never acted mean toward any of my other dogs, was actually kind of submissive. What would cause her to do this. My husband had told me a few days ago she was biting at the puppies through the fence but I just thought she was trying to play with them. I found where she had dug under the fence and I guess the pup stuck it's head out and she drug it out from under the fence. I know she wasn't hungry she has a feeder in her kennel where I put her at night. She eats Professional Kennel Choice dog food. The main ingredient is meat meal. I raised this dog from a pup. Her mother is a good dog and has never tried to hurt any animal. She just has this habit of running by the other dogs and snapping at them.
Which is a herding instinct I guess. This is what I gather from her actions.
Any suggestions of why the young G.S. did this?
Thanks,
Louise
Answer
I recommend that you visit my web site and read a training article I recently wrote titled The Theory of Corrections in Dog Training.
The reason I wrote this article was to
help people understand how to motivate their dogs in training.
Most people either use
the wrong kind of correction or over correct dogs in training.
I am not a fan of “force training” (although I definitely
believe that every dog needs to go through a correction phase).
By exploring corrections in training you will become a
better dog trainer.
I strongly recommend two DVDs to you:
Basic
Dog Obedience
Dealing
with Dominant and Aggressive Dogs.
Also a prong
collar and a dominant
dog collar.
You need to step to the line and learn pack behavior, pack structure
and understand it.
You owe it to the Beagle puppy to fix this problem.
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Hi,
I have 3 Cocker Spaniel puppies all from the same liter. They are 5 months old. One is female and the other 2 are male. The one male is getting to be very aggressive when treats are handed out or when chew treats are handed out. He will go to one of the other puppies (more than likely the female) and sit and watch her and growl at her until she either gets up and walks away and leaves her chew/treat or she will jump up at him and they will start to fight. I haven't started obedience training on them yet, but I do plan on doing this. Is there anything that I can do to help stop what he is doing until I can get them trained? Please help and let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks,
Tessa
Answer
What you are doing in raising 3 littermates
or three dogs of the same age is a terrible idea. You have not
even begun to see the problems you are going to have.
Keep reading my web site.
Read the articles on Q&A
on Dominance, dogs fights, and
the Article on Dealing with a Dominant
Dog, You can read about
this on my web
site in the list of training articles.
Read the article I wrote on why it’s a terrible idea to
try and raise two pups at the same time (and you are trying 3).
Find a home for one of the males or keep all of them separated
with dog crates or dog kennels.
Question
Good Afternoon: Is it ok for
a 2 1/2 year old dog be dominant over a new puppy as long as
they both view their human
owners as "the pack leader?"
I have a 2 1/2 year old male Pit bull Bull mastiff
mix (we've had him since a puppy) and we just rescued a 5 month
old full breed
female Pit bull. The older dog is not aggressive and very accepting
of other dogs but I would characterize him as more "dominant."
I don't believe he's dominant over us (my husband and I) I just
think he know's he the pack leader among other dogs.
Anyway, the new puppy is here and he is not hurting
her or anything of that sort. He is sharing his stuff and everything.
He just continues
to show his dominance towards her. Tries to pin her down and lay
on top of her. She loves it. I assume she thinks he is playing
with her. Is that ok? Can't they/we live harmoniously w/ one submissive
dog and one dominant one? What do you see as our fate based on
what I've told you?
Thank You.
Angela
Answer
This is 100% wrong.
Read the article I wrote on How
to Introduce a New Dog Into a Home with Existing Dogs.
Read the article I wrote titled Dealing with a Dominant Dog.
We would never consider doing what you are doing. We do not allow
an adult dog like this to interact in any way with a puppy. Not
for months and months and then only under supervision.
If you cannot deal with controlling your dogs with dog crates and training then find a new home for this puppy.
Question
Ten days ago, I adopted a 1 year old, recently
spayed and vaccinated female chihuahua.
She was given to the shelter for being bad with children.
The shelter staff told me that they could not get near her for
a week, that she was nervous, afraid, etc.
She was sweet and friendly to my husband, my 10 year old neutered
male chihuahua and myself- at the shelter.
So, she sat on my lap for the 2 1/2 hour ride home- I wanted her
in a crate in the back seat with my other dog, but she struggled
against going in it. I didn't have a muzzle and I knew she was
nervous, so I figured we could bond on the ride (big mistake number
1?). I didn't want to get bitten and destroy our relationship from
the beginning.
My husband pet her every time she nudged him.
I ignored that because it's dominant. (I have years of past dog
experience from working
as shelter staff and a veterinary technician) I told her "No" for
play biting, gave her water and a couple of treats.
Anyway, her doggie brain figured "Hey,
this guy pets me on command and that other dog is in the back
seat. This woman here
is my leader and I'm next in command!"
I say this, because she ran into our apartment,
peed on the kitchen floor, then the living room rug, then on
the bed. (Urine marking!)
I made her get out of the bedroom and never let her back in there
again. I also gave her a firm "No!" and took her outside...
Then she grabbed a rawhide bone from the floor, snarled and lunged
at my other dog, and growled at my husband.
I got her in the crate. I decided that this dog is dominant aggressive
and territorial aggressive.
Now I'M going through the door first. I'M giving her the toys
and treats, not leaving them on the floor. She's riding in a carrier
in the car in the same spot as my other dog, I'M feeding her- after
she lays down on command, etc. She recognizes me as her leader.
She didn't want to get in the carrier, so I muzzled her and physically
made her go in -NOT abusively, just firm.
Now, she goes in it- no problem.
BUT, (and sorry for the long history, I thought it would help
you to get the whole picture)
she is trying to attack my husband every time
he comes near me. (Only when he approaches me or touches me-
not when they're alone)
She is trying to scare my other dog out of the room and lunges
and growls at him. He is SO submissive and just creeps away. He
never puts up a fight and I do NOT interfere with the "pack
order." I pet HER first, give her the treats first, let her
go out the door after me, before my older dog, etc.
I need her to know that I will NOT allow aggression towards my
husband and my other dog.
For the last week, I have kept her on a leash.
When she growls at my other dog or my husband, I snap the leash
and give her a
firm "no!" It takes about three snaps and corrections,
then she calms down. Then I tell her "good," pet her
and maybe give her treats.
My husband is starting to get very irritated
by her attacking him. I started having doubts about my training
method, thinking
that maybe if I'm correcting her and saying "no" she
will associate it with my husband and attack him more.
I decided that I could use a little help and
got a trainer to come to my home for a private consultation today.
He told me that
95% of aggression is fear aggression. I could swear that this dog
is dominant and territorial! He tried using a clicker and I said
I don't like those things, so he used his voice instead and kept
giving her treats and saying "yes." He also said her
name, and if she looked at him, he talked all squeaky and high
pitched for a "minimum of 30 seconds."
He wants me to throw treats at her every time
my husband is around. I see the positive connection there, but
how do I let her know
that I won't tolerate the aggression?! He says I shouldn't say "no" to
my dog...
and that I shouldn't give leash corrections and that this will
make her fear and aggression greater. Well, she ended up trying
to attack this trainer three times, and I wasted my money. Next
time I would be smarter and ask if they have experience with aggression.
All that guy did was confuse me and make my dog nuts. She highly
disrespected him. She has never, ever behaved that way with me and
I just met her 10 days ago.
What do YOU think? I know how you feel about those food bribery
trainers and I trust your opinion more. Am I doing this the right
way? Any modifications I need to make to be more effective? Is
what I'm doing going to stop this dog from being possessive over
me? If she is guarding me, does it mean that she really doesn't
respect me as the pack leader because she feels the need to protect
me? Or is she just afraid that someone will harm or take away the
best thing in her life?
She was given many vaccinations and a spay surgery all in the
same week, as well as being under enormous stress in the shelter.
If this is vaccinosis induced aggression, will it get better?
Any tips? Any and all advice will be greatly appreciated!
I'm not in the mood for silly food-bribery and squeaky talk- which
is
why I'm asking YOU! (Although, I won't physically hurt her either).
Thanks for reading so much!
Stacey
Answer
I recommend that you go to my web site and read
the article I wrote on my philosophy of dog training. I think you
will get some good ideas there.
Your problems are more of an owner problem than a
dog problem.
I suggest that you read the article I wrote on how
to introduce a new dog into a home
with existing dogs. The work
in this article
is compounded when you have a weak nerved dog.
Bottom line is you should be doing this work for
a month or two before you even consider doing what you are doing
now.
You will probably find that you have not had the full picture
on the steps of training a dog. Your dog must go through training
steps before it can be considered fully trained.
You will read why I am not a fan of taking an untrained
dog to obedience classes. No professional dog trainer would ever
take
his dog to an obedience class with 15 or 20 untrained dogs and
try and train it there. It's crazy. The dogs cannot concentrate
with the distractions.
I think if you read the testimonials on my DVD you will see that
my customers feel the same way.
If you make the decision to learn to train - get a prong collar.
You can read about it on my web site. There is an article I wrote
(with a number of excellent photos) on how
to fit a prong collar,
you can also read about the different types of prongs.
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Question #1
Recently we have had to take in a brittney spaniel that is about
6 years old because of my brother in law's recent move that didn't
allow him to take his animals. I already have 2 German short hair
adult dogs that are 3 and 8 years old and a 1 year old mini mini
schnauzer. They have already been around each other a long time
ago while hunting, but not since then. The first couple of days
were fine. They were around each other all day long and it wasn't
until yesterday did they get into a fight. Everything is back to
normal today so far. What suggestions do you have for my situation?
Question #2
My 3 dogs are spoiled and I know it, but they are use to being
in the house and sleeping on the couches in the front room only.
I read in one article that is not a good thing when you are introducing
a new dog into the house. How would I go about getting my dogs
that are already allowed to get on the furniture to stop? Also
do you have any other helpful tips as I work my way through this
process of introduction?
Answer
I recommend that you go to my web site and
read the article I wrote on my Philosophy
of Dog Training. I think
you will get some good ideas there.
Your problems have just begun.
Read the article I wrote on how to Introduce
a New Dog into a Home with Other Dogs.
You will see where you made mistake.
Three dogs is a dog pack – it's not three
dogs. A HUGE DIFFERNCE!
Read the article I wrote on Dealing
With Dominant Dogs.
You may want to read the article I wrote on ground work before obedience training.
Bottom line is get dog crates and use them – train
these dogs.
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Question
We recently brought an 8 week
old beagle in the house where we have 2 other dogs…
I’ve had a pit bull mix since she was a puppy and she’s
now 6 years old….a couple of years ago, we brought a min-pin
in the house and after an initial period of the pit bull being
standoffish with the min-pin, they are now best friends…they
love each other.
The puppy was brought into the house approximately
3 weeks ago and she has been somewhat accepted by the other dogs,
after that
initial standoffish period, but something happened yesterday that
terrified me and I’m not sure what to make of it…
I was home with all 3 dogs, we were all sleeping
on the couch in the living room and the phone repair main knocked
on the door.
I think it startled all of us and I jumped up to put the older
2 dogs in a bedroom, because they are not stranger friendly. Before
I could get them in the room, the puppy let out a howl and the
pit bull went over and it all happened so fast, that I couldn’t
tell if the pit was trying to console the puppy or trying to attack
her.
I got the pit and the min-pin in the bedroom
and went to see about the puppy, who by that time was screaming….the look on the
dogs face was of pure terror. I’ve never seen a dog behave
that way, she was terrified of me for a long time
Do you think the pit was trying to attack her or was this just
from being startled from sleep and scared of all the commotion?
Answer
This is 100% an owner problem. Not a dog problem.
The Pit was attacking the pup – its
called redirected aggression.
I recommend that you go to my web site and read the
article I wrote on my
philosophy of dog training. I think you will
get some
good ideas there.
Read the article I wrote on how to introduce
a new dog into a home with existing digs. Three dogs is a DOG
PACK – it changes
and elevates pack and rank behavior. Allowing dogs on furniture
in this environment is a CRAZY thing to do.
I recommend that you read the article I wrote titled
Dealing with the
Dominant Dog and the second article I wrote titled
The Groundwork
to becoming a Pack Leader.
I also recommend my 4 hour Basic
Dog Obedience DVD and a dominant
dog collar. Read the write up and look at the
photos of how to size them on my web
site. I recommend that you visit my web site and read a
training article I recently wrote titled The Theory of Corrections in Dog Training.
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Comment
I am impressed with your website & have
purchased your video. I have another question not on your site
- We have a 9 year old Shih Tzu, who has always been a submissive
house/lap dog. We just got a Labrador puppy, now 11 weeks old (we
brought her home at 8 weeks). Our older dog is scared to death
of the puppy & we don't know how to get the 2 dogs together.
The older dog shakes & is scared to go near the puppy. So far
they have been separated via the crate or gates. Thanks.
Debora
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Mr. Frawley,
First off, thank you very much for all the
excellent information on your website. I have question for you.
I apologize for not reading
through EVERY Q&A or discussion board before troubling you,
but I only discovered your site about 48 hours ago and my girlfriend
and I are scheduled to adopt a puppy from a local rescue group
by this weekend, so I was hoping for a quick response. (I've soaked
up as much as I could from the website in that time and have just
ordered your video, Your Puppy 8 Weeks to 8 Months.)
A bit more background before I get to the actual
question (bear with me!). We currently own a 5yr old lab/hound
mix. She's mostly
good, but she does have some separation anxiety and other issues.
She was my dog before I met my girlfriend. The three of us have
some issues to work on but I don't want to trouble you with the
old dog right, my question is with the new dog. In the past, I
have been the "primary caregiver," feeding the dog, taking
her on walks most of the time, just generally paying more attention
to her. But our new dog (a ~6 months old Rottie/GS/? mix) isn't fully
housebroken and I work full-time, so my girlfriend will be much
more involved with the new dog, especially with house breaking
and initial training.
My question has to do with your instructions on laying the "groundwork," where
you write: "We don’t allow family members or friends to pet our
dogs. We make it very clear to the dog that I am the center of its universe.
New owners make a lot of mistakes by allowing others to play with their dogs
or pet their dogs to soon after they get them." I don't have quotes from
other things I recall reading, but you make it clear that you bond with the
dog, establish yourself as alpha etc. for at least the first few weeks. So
here's (finally) my question: is it possible for my girlfriend and I to both
work with the puppy? Do you really recommend that one of us (and I guess it
would have to be me) keep their distance. If so, what can I do with the dog?
I should mention that there will be times each week when my girlfriend is away
and I'll have to feed and walk the dog, regardless of what might be ideal.
Any clarification you could offer would be appreciated. Once again,
I'm sorry if this information is present elsewhere in your site
and I just haven't stumbled upon it yet. I will continue to work
my way through the site as I wait for a response.
Thank you very much in advance,
Mike
Answer
In our home we have our own
dogs. I am friendly with Cindy's dogs but I don’t GUSH
over them. I may pat their head and say hi but that’s all
and if I have to let them outside when she is gone I do but I
don’t play with them.
It's clear to them that I am a higher rank but she is their best
friend. You have two dogs and should do the same.
Read these articles I have written:
How
to introduce a new dog into a home with existing dogs.
You may want to read the article I wrote titled The
Ground Work to Becoming a Pack Leader.
This is the protocol we use in our home when we raise a puppy for
ourselves. It is also the part of the protocol we use to solving
behavioral problems such as dominance and/or house breaking problems.
I recommend that you visit my web site and read a
training article I recently wrote titled The Theory of Corrections in Dog Training.
The reason I wrote this article was to help
people understand how to motivate their dogs in training. Most
people either use
the wrong kind of correction or over correct dogs in training.
I am not a fan of “force training” (although I most
definitely believe that every dog needs to go through a correction
phase). By exploring corrections in training you will become a
better dog trainer.
The fact is you have way more to learn than
your dogs. I would recommend that you get the 4 hour Basic
Obedience DVD.
Study it – make your girlfriend study it.
Good luck
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Hi Ed,
I wanted to see what you recommend about my current situation.
We have a 4.5 year old female black Lab and an 11 week old female
teacup yorkie puppy. Two
Mondays ago, Bailey (the lab) bit our puppy (Bella). She had been growling
at her, whenever Bella would teeth on Bailey’s paws/ get close to her
toys/ get close to her food, but 2 Mondays ago, she bit her on the head. We
immediately took Bella to the emergency vet. She had 2 gashes that they glued
together (one on the top of her head and the other on her neck). She went back
in for her first puppy exam/check up the following Saturday, and she was recovering
extremely well and seemed happy as can be.
Two weekends ago we started to reintroduce
them to each other and Bailey seemed to be warming up. Last Thursday,
however, it
happened again. We took Bella back to the vet and both of her corneas
are scratched. They gave me some strong antibiotic drops and we
hope they will do the trick. Bella has been pretty shaken up since
the attack, but she has started to come out of her shell a little
bit. The vet said that we need to keep them completely separated
and that a trainer wouldn’t help the situation, but I just
have to believe that there is something that we can do to make
it better and to help Bailey adjust!
We have been trying to reassure Bailey
that she is the alpha dog (taking her out first, feeding her
first, giving her the best toys),
but she just seems really annoyed with Bella and the fact that
Bella really wants to play with her. Here is a basic overview of
Bailey… I wanted to give you as much information as possible:
I purchased Bailey as a puppy, and gave
her to Paul (my husband) for a present. Paul and Bailey are inseparable.
Paul thinks that
Bailey hung the moon and vice versa. Bailey has been pretty much
an only dog for her whole life. She has lived with other dogs before,
but they were roommates’ dogs and she never had to share/compete
for attention. She became very close with those dogs and was really
depressed when they moved out. She hasn’t lived with another
dog in over 2 years. She also does well with both of our parents
dogs when we go visit them in Corpus.
Everyone describes Bailey as sweet, gentle, and extremely well
mannered. She is fabulous with children, and plays very well with
other dogs that she knows. She has free reign of the house during
the day and is very good. She spends the morning looking outside
the front window on her bed, which we have propped up on an ottoman
(so she can see outside). She spends the afternoons on our bed.
She is not allowed on the furniture, and she asks permission to
get on the bed. We let her sleep with us about once every 2 weeks.
She mostly sleeps on her bed, which we move to our bedroom at night
and put it down on the floor, next to our bed.
Her dad takes her fetching at the park
every night. 90% of the time she is fetching and the other time
she will socialize with
the other dogs. She plays well with her friends, but she is mostly
interested in fetching with Paul. She goes after other dogs at
the park when she thinks they are going to steal her ball. She
occasionally goes after dogs that come over to play with Paul when
they are fetching. If she has had her daily exercise, then she
is very calm when she gets home. If she hasn’t, then she
is begging for attention and lets you know that she wants to go
fetching. Paul used to take her running nearly every day for 3.5
years. She LOVES it. He then got sick and wasn’t able to
take her anymore…so that’s when they started fetching
every day. He had surgery and is just now to the point where he
will soon be ready to start running with her again.
She loves belly rubs and loves playing with cats. She chases squirrels
all the time, but I think she honestly wants to play with them.
She enjoys a routine. Everyday I come home during lunch to let
her out and play with her. She travels extremely well, and has
NEVER gone to the bathroom inside the house. Last year, she had
a spell of getting into the trash, but when Paul and I got married
and moved in together (and got a trash can with a lid) she has stopped
doing that. She is in no other way destructive.
She has always been attracted to cute little
things, and that is why I thought she would be okay with a yorkie.
Bella isn’t
competition as far as fetching time or spending time with Paul.
Bailey is Paul’s dog and Bella is mine. That said, Bailey
is VERY attached to me as well.
We are crate training Bella and she stays
in her crate during the day. At lunch, I come home for an hour
and let her out, but
then she goes back into her crate. She is teething on everything,
and she always goes after Bailey’s paws. I close her muzzle
and say “no bite” when she does. Bella’s teeth
and just now starting to erupt, so I fear that we are in for a
long teething stage. After the second attack Bella has been acting
out more. I don’t know if she is just a puppy testing her
limits (who is now 3 weeks older) or if this is a result from the
attacks. Whenever I try to take something out of her mouth (like
a sock), she goes crazy! Over the past 3 or 4 days she has started
biting and growling at me when I try to correct her or make her
do something that she doesn’t want to do. She bit me 3 times
over the sock yesterday morning and again last night when I tried
to put in her eye drops. Both times I would say “no!”.
When she would do it again, I roll her on her stomach, pin her
down and growl…half the time she starts licking my nose and
the other half she growls back. When she growls back, I put her
in a time out in her crate.
I really don’t want Bella to become a skiddish, snappy dog.
If she ever snaps at Bailey, that would be the end of her, and
one day, when we have kids, I don’t want her to bit and snap
at them. I am definitely worried about Bella’s socializing.
She has the cutest personality and I love her so much…I really
want what is best for her. I really want what is best for both
of them.
I started taking Bailey to doggie day care
so that she can socialize with other dogs and realize that she
is a dog and not a human.
I think she has always been spoiled, so I am hoping that putting
her with other dogs will teach her how to SHARE and learn to enjoy
Bella. She has only been once so far, and, when she came home,
she was in the best mood and even acted like she wanted to play
with Bella. I didn’t let her…but I thought it was progress.
I love both of these dogs so much and just
don’t know what
to do. I apologize for this LONG email, but I wanted to tell you
everything. Bailey is so great, I just want her to become comfortable
and to accept Bella, and I want Bella to be safe, feel safe, and
feel loved.
I would greatly appreciate any advice.
Thanks,
Erin
Answer
This is more of a handler mistake than a dog problem.
Read the article I wrote on how to introduce a new dog into a
home with existing dogs. You will see where your mistakes began. In fact I am going to include
your email on that page so others can see what happens when they
do this.
If you don’t do the things in this
article you will have a dead puppy.
You should read the article I wrote on Ground Work to Becoming a Pack Leader. This is how we
raise pups in our home.
I would recommend you
purchase the video I produced titled Your Puppy
8 Weeks to 8 Months. I have owned and trained German Shepherds for 40 years.
In the past 25 years I have bred over 350 litters of working bloodline
German Shepherds. I give this video to all of my puppy
customers
and never get questions on how to raise a pup. Read the
description of the tape on my web site. Dog training is not rocket
science
its simple common sense ideas on how to handle and train
a dog.
You should also consider
my 4 hour DVD on Basic Dog Obedience - The fact is you have way more to
learn than your dog. I always recommend the handlers start studying
this DVD right away even though you wont train a lot of the work
until the pup is 4 to 6 months old.
You have to consider the DVD I recently finished
titled Dealing with Dominant & Aggressive Dogs . Your lab cannot exhibit this aggression and sending it to doggie
day
care if the absolute wrong thing to do (NO MATTER WHAT THE PERSON
WHO OWNS IT SAYS).
I have a saying that I tell people – it
goes like this” Everyone
has an opinion on how to train a dog – just ask you barber,
your mailman and your neighbor” The problem is very few people
have the experience to back up their opinions. This results in
a lot of bad information being passed out so people like yourself
need to figure out who has the experience to warrant being listened
to.
For your puppy's sake I hope you step to
the line and educate yourself here. If you need more reasons – go
to the following web page and read
the hundred of emails from people.
Question
I have been studying your site and in the last
month have rescued dog#2 a German Shepard mix male who is 1 year
old and also have a lab mix rescue who is 1 year 5 months and a female.
They seem to fight constantly no blood drawn but seem to really
get into it they have now been trained this can only happen outside
and get along great around food and treats. How much fighting playing
is too much I don't watch them constantly outside since we have a fenced double yard and
they are both crated when no one is home inside in the same room...... Any insight
you can provide will greatly be appreciated
Thanks in advance..........
Answer
We would never introduce dogs like this. You
can read the article I wrote on how to introduce a new dog into
a home
with other dogs. You can find the list of 300 or so training
articles I have written. This email will
be added to that article.
You should separate these dogs, then obedience
train them.
There are two of my training DVDs you should consider :
Basic
Dog Obedience
Dealing
with Dominant and Aggressive Dogs
Should you choose to ignore this information I recommend that
you read the article I wrote on how to break up a dog fight without
getting hurt.
You are always going to be exposed to people
who offer advice on how to fix your dog's behavioral issues.
The problem is that most of these people
don’t have the
experience to offer sound advice. This results in a lot of bad
information being passed out on how to deal with behavioral problems.
Pet owners like yourself need to figure out who
has the experience to warrant being listened to.
Dog training is not my hobby, it’s
a way of life. I have been training dogs for over 45 years. I
have bred over 350 litters
of working bloodline German Shepherds, I was a police K9 handler
on a drug task force for 10 years and I have produced over 120
videos on dog training. Many of them directed towards professional
dog trainers.
If my web site were printed out it would be over 10,000 pages.
It is the largest dog training web site on the Internet. I have
written 300 training article which are included on my site, I also
have a dog training web discussion board which has 97,000 posts
and growing every day. The board has 8,400 plus registered members
and there is always over 100 people on the board at any time of
the day.
Learn to use my web site search function.
Good luck
Josie the rescue dog aggressive
to new puppy:
Mr. Frawley:
I have just spent a few hours
reading articles on your site with regard to dominant dogs, and
have a
few questions. I'm hoping you might be
able to steer me in the right direction, before my situation gets out
of hand. Here's some background: Five years ago I adopted
a one-year-old Yorkie terrier
mix who I found running through a busy intersection. At the time, I called
the pound and they took her for three days to locate her owners. No owners
were found, and so I adopted her; her name is Josie. She and I had an
immediate bond, but she had obviously been abused in the past and
so had some issues
when it came to people she had not met before. (She is very sensitive
to the word "no.") I worked with her to socialize her around other people
and other dogs, and she did okay through the years. No fights, but some close
calls with other dogs; she is definitely a dominant dog. She growls at me on
occasion, and I correct her with a sharp, low "no." When she's
corrected, she cowers and then starts wagging her tail for me to pet her,
which I try
to ignore.
More often, she will growl at my boyfriend, who I have been with
for two years. She is not obedient on walks, but does listen
to us when we ask her to "wait" before
crossing the street. With other dogs, she is definitely dominant and demands
that they submit to her with growls or nips. I learned that I have broken several
dominant dog rules that I read your Web site, because she sleeps in our bed,
lays on us on the couch and pretty much has the run of the house. (I didn't know
these were inappropriate actions.) I'd like to learn how to do "the right
thing" when it comes to training her, NOW, because we just brought a
new puppy (golden retriever) into the home, and although I'm not pregnant,
I do
want to have a child someday and I'm afraid that Josie might snap at a child.
(We
also have two cats that Josie herds around the house like sheep, and when
they try to come into the bedroom at night she growls and snaps at them.)
The puppy, named Nora, is 10 weeks old. We are crate training her.
She is in the crate all night, for feedings and when we are not at
home. When we introduced
Nora to Josie, we had Nora in the crate and let Josie sniff her. We gradually
let them meet. For several days, Josie seemed frightened of the puppy and
would not go near her. Josie also refused to play with any toy that
the puppy played
with. This lasted for about a week. When they would interact, Josie would
growl at the puppy or at times snap. I thought this was OK because
we wanted Josie
to know that she was the dominant dog, but now I'm beginning to worry.
Yesterday, Josie snapped at the puppy's head - did not break skin
- but the puppy yelped.
I don't really know where to start when trying to correct this behavior.
If Josie is to stop sleeping in our bed, how do I get her to do that?
What about the couch?
What do we do about the puppy? Any information you can provide will be
much appreciated, and I'm interested in purchasing a video or two
if you might point out some that
would be appropriate.
What are your thoughts about getting Josie into an obedience class?
Thanks very much for your time,
Rebecca
Answer
I give you credit for trying to correct your mistakes.
I recommend that you go to my web site and read
the article I wrote on my
philosophy of dog training. I think you will get some
good ideas there.
Josie is not trained – that’s
the first step to take. Get a prong
collar and my Basic
Dog Obedience DVD.
This is only part of the solution. It is
a necessary part but only a piece of the puzzle. If you don’t
do it you will fail.
I wrote an article about how to introduce
a new puppy into a home with other dogs. I recommend you read
it.
We would never do what you are doing – allowing them to be
together so soon. You are asking for disaster.
I would also recommend that you get the DVD I
recently finished (it was a 5 year project) titled Dealing with Dominant & Aggressive Dogs. If you go to the web page you can
read the outline of
what I included.
These two DVD's offer 7 ½ hours of
instruction directly related to your problem.
Question
Hello,
I have a pug puppy, (phoebe) she is 5 months old, and an older
Dachshund (11 years old) The pug is constantly biting and jumping
and chewing on the dachshund. I assume to be the dominant dog.
The Dachshund (woody) does not fight back, but for the most part
takes it. How do I get this to stop?
Also the puppy constantly tries to take food out
of Woody's mouth when eating. I also assume this is to be dominant
(Phoebe is definitely
the dominant of the two). If I didn't watch them eat, Phoebe would
eat all of Woody's food.
Any suggestions would be helpful!
Thank you,
Claudia
Answer
Get a dog crate and put the puppy in it. It is YOUR
JOB as pack leader to protect the older dog from the bullying of
the puppy. Read my article on Introducing
Dogs into Homes with Existing Dogs.
Question
Hi Mr. Frawley,
My family and I are getting a new puppy a female
GSD in a couple of months and I've been reading up and doing
research, I even bought
your video "Your Puppy 8 weeks...." Anyway I told my
neighbor about it because she had a real hard time with the previous
owners of our home and their barking dog, their bedroom window
is right next to our backyard. She thought it would be a good idea
to socialize my new pup to her two indoor dogs so that when they
are outside there wouldn't be a big problem, but when I dog sat
for them once one of her dogs growled at me and tried to bite me
and I really don't know if I want my new pup around her. I certainly
don't want my new pup to have a bad experience. Do you think that
we should as long as the dogs are all on leashes. Or should I just
politely say "no thank you" and try to bark train my
pup when she gets older? I really don't want to get into it with
her over this, we've had a great relationship so far but I know
she has a pretty hot temper and hates barking dogs. My puppy will
be inside most of the time anyway until I go back to work in a
couple of years so should I even worry right now or should i try
and be as proactive as possible? What do you suggest?
Tracey
Answer
This is 100% a terrible idea.
It’s a great
way to screw up your dog if it were to get attacked and there is
a good chance it would because your pup is not part of their pack.
This woman falls into this category: "Everyone
has an opinion on how to train a dog – just ask you barber,
your mailman and your neighbor” The problem is very few people
have the experience to back up their opinions. This results in
a lot of
bad information being passed out So people like yourself need to
figure out who has the experience to warrant being listening to.
You would be better advised to spend the time
training your dog with the methods in my tapes (not sure if you
also got Basic Dog
Obedience - if not get it – you
have a lot more to learn than your dog does – no disrespect
meant here – it's just the truth).
If barking becomes a problem you can (and should)
keep you dog in the house in a dog crate at night. If it's going
to be an outside
dog then get a Tri Tronic
Bark Limiter (it works the same day that
it goes on).
I hope this helps.
Question
Ed,
I have been training dogs for a good while and really enjoy helping
people make their dogs good citizens. I have a 72 year old lady
that has rescued a 6 year Great Dane. We have been training for
5 weeks
now and things are going better than I ever thought it would. She
truly loves this dog. The problem is the Great Dane is a bundle
of nerves due to trauma with it's previous owners. The dog is a
female
and really sociable with people but you bring another dog into
the mix she goes to hell in a hand basket. The lady has a daughter
that
has a lab/pit mix in which is a male. Our goal with the training
is to be able to put these dogs together. I have been getting the
dogs closer and closer during training sessions and it has improved
for the most part. The Great Danes nerves are just all over the
place. This past Saturday I had them both on a down stay and about
a foot
apart for about 5 minutes and feeling like we had accomplish our goal
and all at once both dogs went after each other we did it all over
again (so they would not win). I am like you and do not like weak
nerves but I have to help this lady due to her love for the dog.
I am thinking of putting the dogs together muzzled and letting
them work it out on their on. I have never seen female and male
be this
aggressive toward each other. The main problem is the mother/daughter
has tip toed around this for 8 months and I believe has compounded
the problem. Do you agree with my thinking on the muzzling of
the dogs? Thanks for such a great web site and supporting the greatest
breed ever. (German Shepherd)
Answer
I wrote an article on how to introduce a new dog into a home with
other dogs. Also in an eBook.
With this said, dogs don't live in the past they
live in the present. This means she has to be a strong pack leader.
At
72 the best way for that to handle is if she learns to train with a
remote collar. I did a training DVD on this.
When she has learned this then muzzles and dog
crates are in order. Remember this may not work. Just because
the people want this, does not mean its going to happen. It's
a pack and rank issue and I don't see a 72 year old women becoming
a strong pack leader.
Answer
I just found your website today and wanted to inquire
about introducing our son's adopted 3 year old golden retriever to
our 2 dogs... 11 year old (part lab)and 8 year old llasa apso ..
They are very easy going and get along with the neighbor's 2 poodles,
and with every human they meet...
Our son and his wife brought their retriever here earlier today and
we told him to bring her to the fence then I would leave our 2 outside
on the other side of the fence....And I would stand there and speak
to their retriever in a friendly way so they would know I accepted
her, etc.
Our part lab barked like crazy and the little one did the same thus
triggering the retriever to react and bark...They went at the fence
barking and showing teeth ..which is unusual ...soooo needless to say
we decided to wait for another day to introduce them again....
The retriever's former owners always left her with their parents when
they went away and they have a schnauzer that she got along with fine....
I will be helping watch the dog at times so I want the 3 to get along
and be a good pack!!!
HELP!!!
AND THANK YOU,
Gloria
Answer
Introducing new dogs (no matter how friendly
you think they are) through a fence is never a good idea, as it can
elicit territorial aggression. You already had a taste of that.
I don’t know how long your son has had his
Golden, but I would suggest our Basic
Obedience DVD even if the dog
has had some previous
training.
You will probably find that you have not had the full picture on the
training steps for training your dog. A dog must go through training
steps before it can be considered fully trained.
When you read the description of the DVD on the web site you will
find out why we are not fans of taking an untrained dog to obedience
classes. No professional dog trainer would ever take his dog to an
obedience class with 15 or 20 untrained dogs and try and train it there.
Dogs cannot learn when faced with this kind of distraction.
If you read the testimonials on the DVD you will see that our customers
feel the same way.
I also recommend that you read the recently written
article titled
The Theory of Corrections in Dog Training.
Question
I have a 3 year old female GSD. In the beginning I was doing schutzhund training with her, but due to an illness I had to stop, finances and time made it impossible to continue. She follows all commands and is a sweetheart at heart. She has lived with me and my daughters, who are 13 and 17. Two years ago my daughter's father bought her a male 10 week old Chinese crested, also from a breeder. My GSD took to him right away and they were good with each other she was taught to play, as I call it "easy" with him. I have never had a problem between the two of them, my vet was sure to check on each time we had a visit. When we are at work and school they are free in the house and never no problem until now. My GSD bit the little guy in his face and got his eye did damage to cornea. I know about toys, bones, etc. being around but it was never an issue she used to let him smell a bone have a lick and he would leave it, and she would toss a ball at him to play. Neither one of them has ever been food aggressive either, until now. I don`t know what happened. Why would she suddenly turn on him? I recently moved can that be stressful to cause this problem? One evening I noticed she went up to him out of nowhere and went for his face. When I gave the command no she stopped, looked at me and sulked away. I have been separating them when we go out now and she does not like that, she broke door trimming to get into room or she will start going through my desk or garbage tearing things up, things she has never done before. I don`t know what to do. I have been spending extra time with her at park doing some tracking etc. thinking this is what she needs, but nothing works. I`m at lost as to what to do. Can you give me your opinion on this or any suggestions?
Thank You,
Catherine
Answer
Catherine,
Hate to say this but this is an owner mistake and not a dog problem.
Under no circumstances would we ever do what you have done. If your older dog is house trained and can be left loose in the home then that’s OK but the young dog should NEVER be loose when you are gone. But then you already found out why I say that.
Bottom line is who knows what happened? I will guarantee that it had something to do with pack structure and rank and the older this male gets the more problems you will now have with it and your female.
So unless you are willing to get a crate and use it religiously you should re-home one of these dogs or prepare for additional vet bills.
If you want to read more about your mistakes you can read the free eBook on my web site about How to Introduce a New Dog into a Home with Other Dogs. My web site has a large number of FREE eBooks that I have written. Go to the main directory for eBooks.
Question
Today we brought a new dog in to our house hold already containing two adult Greyhounds. The dog we brought in is an adopted female rottie/lab mix 11 month old. We started by having the dogs meet on neutral ground in a park (all on long leashes.) Of course the greyhounds were curious and gentle. After a few sniffs. The new dog growled and turned aggressive. A firm no stopped the aggression right away. We all went our separate ways in the same area for a few minutes allowing them to just be in the same area. We brought them round again and the new dog did it again. A firm NO again stopped the behavior. We walked them trying to keep them apart while letting them check each other out casually.
THEN WE MADE THE MISTAKE (this is prior to stumbling onto your web site. We allowed the dogs to roam free in the house. The new dog is the one showing all the initial aggression. They responded to NO again immediately. This is all new to my greyhounds so I was surprised when the large male had enough and pinned her and biting down. I said now loudly and the fight stopped. The two dogs went cowering away. The new dog continued to growl and just get in the greyhounds faces for no reason. Though the female greyhound and the new female seem to get along better. Luckily we have plastic muzzles we use for the greyhounds (when they aren't suppose to lick cuts, etc) so we it put on the new dog.
Frustrated and fearing one of the three may get hurt I hit the web. We read your articles. The new dog is now in a crate (with no muzzle) and when she growls a stiff no is given. She is has been given much love and attention from us so far and seems to be a wonderful dog (smart, able to learn obedience, NOT AGGRESSIVE to people at all.) What is odd is at the Humane Society she seemed to get along great with other dogs. We should have brought our dogs to acclimate. But we would have brought our female anyway because she is the most skittish. Well the tables are turned. Though not to be trusted together yet, the females get along.
My question is finally this: with the little information given does it sound like there is hope for this pack? I would hate to give up on this great dog because of what may be normal adjustment period or can be cured with training and patience.
HELP!!!
Thanks,
Phil
Answer
Only time and training will help – get my DVD on Basic Dog Obedience.
Question
I have had my German Shepherd for 5 years. I moved to a new house about a year ago. My German Shepherd is crate trained, always on a leash, or in his kennel. Well, about 8 months ago a pit bull came in our yard, my dog was on his leash. The pit bull attack my dog. He wasn't hurt badly thank God, but ever since this happen he is very aggressive towards other dogs, I even have to muzzle him when I take him to the vet. He is fine with people, just dogs. My problem is that I am getting married, my fiance has 2 Labs that are about a year old. We are putting up kennels for each of them, but at some point I am sure they will come in contact with each other. Any advice on what I can do so that we all can live happily. Also about 6 months after the first attack the same Pit Bull did it again. So my poor dog had this happen to him twice, the Pit Bull is no longer around.
Thank you in advance for any advice,
Dawn
Answer
The attack of your dog is the same as a women being raped. It is such a traumatic incident that the dog takes the position of a good attack is the best defense.
With this said the first thing you should do is shoot this pit bull. I assure you I would do it if my dog was attacked.
The issue of aggression is to strange dogs. Your job is to make damn sure the new dogs are not allowed near your dog for months. Get three dog crates (along with your kennels) crate these dogs together. Over a period of months they will figure out that they are all in the same family pack. Read my article on how to introduce a new dog into a home with existing dogs.
Make the mistake and allow these dogs together too soon and you have better read the article I wrote on How to Break up a dog fight without getting hurt. With this said – if you screw it up the dogs will NEVER LEARN TO LIVE TOGETHER.
When you allow them to be together do it one dog at a time – introduce the lab of the opposite sex. Males fight with males and bitches fight with bitches.
You have an opportunity to do this right. I hope it works out for you.
The bottom line is this is a behavioral problem that has developed as a result of mistakes in how you live with your dog. One of the first steps in solving EVERY behavioral problems is to run the dog through a sound obedience training program (one that uses a distraction, correction and maintenance phase) - get a prong collar or one of my dominant dog collars and my 4 hour DVD on Basic Dog Obedience.
Question
Hello my name is Erica. I found a dog and one puppy the other day. I decided to bring the both of them home. At home I have a larger breed dog. He is just a mutt but I was worried how he would react to these new animals. So far he seems to be fine but the mother dog I brought home keeps growling at him and trying to attack him and she is a beagle so she is much smaller. I do not want to get rid of the mother dog but I do not know what to do. Is it because of the puppy that she is acting this way? Can you please help? I have already gotten attached to these dogs and I don't want them to fight.
Thanks,
ER
Answer
You need to correctly introduce these dogs to each other. Just bringing new dogs into your home and expecting them all to get along usually is a recipe for a dog fight or multiple dog fights.
Here is a directory of articles that will help you.
Pack structure and how to live with a dog in your home are the first issues to deal with whenever you add a new dog to your family or have problems with an existing dog. We are taking orders for a new DVD that extensively covers the way Ed and I live with dogs in our home. It is called Establishing Pack Structure with the Family Pet.
Please read this article about becoming an effective pack leader. The first sentence in this article says it all: “You can feed water and love your dog and he will like you but he very well may not respect you." 99% of all behavioral problems are a result of dogs not respecting their owners. This happens as a result of poor handling and/or poor training.
This article was written for people like yourself, people who have great intentions but not enough knowledge of pack structure. There are links within the article that will take you to other articles on my web site.
In the meantime, keep your bigger dog and the beagle and pup separated and introduce them according to our article on Introducing a New dog into your home.
Question
Hi Cindy,
I was given your name to ask a question about a dog problem we are having in our home. I didn't know if you would be able to help or if I should make a post on your discussion board or what. Here is our story:
We had two dogs, a 3/4 malamute/1/4 husky mix (the strength of a mal with the excitability of a husky-not good) and a Collie. The Collie is completely friendly and well behaved, she even tolerates the mal and to a point he does her, except when it comes to food. The mal is completely people friendly, but is completely NOT dog friendly. I don't know what I'd do if he wasn't people friendly but thank goodness he is. A woman at my husband's work was moving and couldn't take all her pets. She had a German shepherd, a Labrador, and a 50 lb. Dalmatian. When she found out my husband likes Dalmatians she convinced him to bring her home. We weren't sure but since the dog had lived with two big dogs we gave it a try. After the first night didn't go so well, even after reading your info on line (we now believe like Mr. Frawley says that sometimes dogs just can't be with other dogs) we kept them separated for the most part. They have had two interactions in the last two weeks, one where they both were lying on the bed together for about five minutes, and another where they were nose to nose for about two minutes.
When the Dalmatian first came to our home she was very nervous and timid. Over the past two weeks she has come out of her shell and she really is a very sweet and well behaved dog. Last night I was trying to get the Dalmatian outside. I put the mal in another room when doing so. I had a treat in my hand and was in the process of getting him into another room when the Dalmatian came running. As he is very food oriented and not well behaved to say the least when there is food and other dogs this was not a good thing. Before I could do or say anything he jumped the Dalmatian, who is about half his size. Fortunately I was able to pull him off of her. We finally got her into our room and she went under the desk and won't come out for anything, food or to go outside, or for me to check for wounds, although I did find two small ones near her ear and she allowed me to clean them up. She did come out at night and sleep at the end of the bed (her usual place) but this morning it was right back under the desk. No amount of coaxing or even treats will bring her out. For now I have decided not to push it until I know what the right thing to do is. I am so afraid that this sweet and wonderful dog has been traumatized, as she wasn't even this nervous or afraid when we brought her home for the first time.
Do you have any advice for us about the Dalmatian? Is this just something we should give some time to work out? Do we need some sort of intervention? For now we are keeping the mal away from the Dalmatian and have no plans to change that in the near future.
Thank you,
Laura
Answer
The first thing I would suggest is to read this article on How to Introduce Dogs. The way you handle the new dog sets the stage for how the relationships between the pack members is going to go.
It’s a fact of life that you may always need to keep the Dalmatian separated from the other dogs, at least when you are unable to supervise them. The Dalmatian needs to know you are going to protect her, and the other dogs need to know that absolutely NO aggression to any other dogs will be tolerated.
Pack structure and how to live with a dog in your home are the first issues to deal with whenever you add a new dog to your family or have problems with an existing dog. We are taking orders for a new DVD that extensively covers the way Ed and I live with dogs in our home. It is called Establishing Pack Structure with the Family Pet.
You may also want to purchase our DVD on Dominant and Aggressive dogs.
The discussion forum is also an excellent resource, many folks on there have gone through similar experiences and can offer input as well.
Question
Hi -
I have been reading your articles and going through all the FAQs - this is a great site. However, I haven't found my exact situation or example and am hoping you can help.
My husband and I have a 8 year old female Shih Tzu and a 1 and half year old male Great Dane. Both get along great, are very well behaved and very obedient.
My problem is, just yesterday we brought home a 1 year old female Great Dane. We met the couple giving her up at a PetsMart so the Danes could meet in a neutral place and they got along just fine and they were great on the drive home. Once we got them home the female Dane started showing aggression towards our male Dane (which we correct immediately), especially around food, bones and toys, but also for no reason, but she is great with our Shih Tzu. The aggression is not fighting, but it's growling, barking and the act of snipping, but she doesn't actually bite. Our male is a big softy, has not started any of these issues and tries to avoid her. But on the other hand they have gotten along just fine. I’ve sat and loved on both of them at the same time, saying “good girl and boy,” etc. and took them running, which they did great together.
I know you say to get crates and the female Dane came with one and she is in it now, because I don't want to do the wrong thing in this very important acclimation period. Is this just the normal "getting used to each other phase" or could it get worse? I appreciate any advice you can give or articles you would recommend.
Thank you,
Sherry
Answer
Sherry,
This is more of an owner education problem than a dog problem. How you are doing this is going to cause problems and expecting it to happen over night is unrealistic. You need to become a student of pack structure. I did a DVD on this Establishing Pack Structure with the Family Pet.
I suggest that you do a little research and change what your doing.
I wrote a free eBook on HOW TO INTORDUCE A NEW DOG INTO A HOME WITH OTHER DOGS. My web site has a large number of FREE eBooks that I have written. Go to the main directory for eBooks. There is also a very abbreviated part of my pack structure program in another eBook.
You have been lucky so far – unless you make some changes you may want to read the eBook I wrote on how to break up a dog fight without getting hurt – because your heading in that direction.
Here are the DVD’s I recommend:
Establishing Pack Structure with the Family Pet
Basic Dog Obedience
Remote Collar Training for Pet Owners
Hope this helps. I am not trying to be hard on you but you have a serious problem brewing. You can make one mistake here and have a dead little dog – because this can moist definitely get a lot worse. I am writing a book on dog aggression. I have an entire folder about people like yourself that ended up with dogs fights and dead dogs.
Question
Good morning:
It has now been two weeks since carefully each day allowing our dogs to know each other (14-month Maltese and 5-month Poodle; both dogs are soft). No domination expressed as of yet. For the past few days we've taken them out at the same time in the yard for exercise. They alternate chasing each other, nipping at each other and knocking each other down. It seems to be play but not sure. We reviewed your DVD's again but were unable to determine. What should we look for to determine when it is play or not? If play, what should we look for should it turn into aggressiveness and time for us to interrupt?
Thank you
Answer
If you can’t call each of the dogs away from the other during this play then you are ahead of yourself because you don’t good enough control to be doing this.
In reality it comes down to control and you ALWAYS have to be in control.
I am not at work so I cant check what you have purchased from us – so here is what I always tell people:
Establishing Pack Structure with the Family Pet
Basic Dog Obedience
Remote Collar Training for the Pet Owner
Question
Hi Ed,
I've been a long time viewer and shopper from your website but never contacted you before. I have used your articles on using the pinch collar and fitting it properly and also the e-collar training DVD. Both very useful with my dogs.
When I decided to adopt another dog (I had two already) I did a Google search for how to introduce a new dog to existing dogs and found your article.
It worked perfectly. I've never really had issues with dog fights or dog fighting but I was sure that I didn't want a first experience. I have a 7 month old German Shepherd rescue and a 6 year old Great Pyrenees/Collie mix and a friend called me desperately needing to rehome a 1 year old pure Saint Bernard. I was unsure at first because the collie mix has had some dog aggression issues (but never even come close to biting or even snapping at another dog) just mild growling and showing dominance, etc..
So, I did what you said I made sure I had a crate for every dog. I kept the new dog in his crate for almost a full week when the other dogs were around and then introduced slowly as you mentioned.
Currently they are all in the backyard playing with each other. My shepherd likes to jump OVER him and the collie mix finally has someone that fights back at tug o war. I just wanted to say how much I appreciate your articles and also several leather leashes I have bought over a few years. They have lasted awhile although I may be replacing one soon because apparently the saint bernard has a thing for chewing leather.
Thanks again!
- Stephanie
Response
Stephanie
Thanks for the kind words and taking the time to write.
A couple of comments here.
I would have counseled a longer crate period and obedience training before the introduction.
I also run the dogs through my pack structure program (this can take 3 weeks to months).
I would be very careful of the introductions. I would do two dogs first and they would have to demonstrate the ability to “RECALL” at every point they are together. This is especially important when they are highly distracted.
This doesn’t guarantee that dogs will get along, you can still end up with dog fights. But it will greatly increase the odds of things working out.
Hope things continue to work. Good luck and thanks for your business.
Question
Good morning:
It has now been two weeks since carefully each day allowing our dogs to know each other (14-month Maltese and 5-month Poodle; both dogs are soft). No domination expressed as of yet. For the past few days we've taken them out at the same time in the yard for exercise. They alternate chasing each other, nipping at each other and knocking each other down. It seems to be play but not sure. We reviewed your DVD's again but were unable to determine. What should we look for to determine when it is play or not? If play, what should we look for should it turn into aggressiveness and time for us to interrupt?
Thank you
Answer
If you can’t call each of the dogs away from the other during this play then you are ahead of yourself because you don’t good enough control to be doing this.
In reality it comes down to control and you ALWAYS have to be in control.
I am not at work so I can't check what you have purchased from us – so here is what I always tell people:
Establishing Pack Structure with the Family Pet
Basic Dog Obedience
Remote Collar Training for the Pet Owner
Comment
Dear Ed,
Thank you for sharing your deep and expansive knowledge of dog training with the world. I recently integrated an adopted dog into my home with two existing German shepherds. I read and re-read your article about integrating a new dog many many times and did my absolute best to follow all of the steps and be super plugged into signs of integration progression. I took my time and now am so thrilled that all three dogs are accepting of the new pack and getting along well. I still take lots of precautionary measures and of course maintain role of pack leader. But just glad I could give a home to the adopted dog (1 year old Australian cattle dog who I knew already from an acquaintance who ended up moving and not able to keep him). And that my shepherds didn't feel out placed by it all.
Thanks again Ed! I don't want to think about what may have happened if I didn't have your white paper on integrating. I would have been very cautious by nature (I also have 5 horses on my property and am a nut about their turnout situations too) but would not have known nearly as much as you outlined.
Kind regards,
Stephanie
Question
Hi,
Over the last six or so months I have purchased most of your dog training DVD's, they are fantastic!! I have a 20 month old male manchester terrier, who I have retrained using your methods and he has responded extremely well (luckily I didn't make too many mistakes when training him the first time). I also have a 12 week old female doberman who I am trying to raise using all the information from your DVD's. One mistake I made with my manchester was letting him play with other dogs when he was younger. After seeing your DVD's, I realize there is no reason for him to play with strange dogs. I have trained him to ignore other dogs when we are on walks and he doesn't even look twice at them anymore. I have introduced my two dogs (both on leads at all times) and they get on fine. They both want to play with each other but my manchester is still obedient enough to come when I tell him and be calm next to me. I take my manchester everywhere with me and plan on doing the same with my doberman. When I walk them to the car or to my workshop they walk either side of me without trying to play. If I am outside I keep them tied up just close enough so they can't touch and both of them are now quite calm. My question is when can I start letting them have supervised play time in the backyard?? They are both pets and neither will be working dogs, I realize I can never leave them alone together and don't ever plan on doing so, but if they both see me as their pack leader is there any harm in letting them play while I am watching?
Thanks for all the years of experience and great advice,
Pete
Answer
I don't let my own dogs play together until I am certain that BOTH of them will stop whatever they are doing to come and play or interact with me.
Depending on the dogs, this can be in a matter of weeks or a matter of years.
Once the young dog is willing to leave his dog friend quickly and without any corrections to come and play with you then I would say supervised play sessions would be ok. Until that time you are just creating the atmosphere of "other dogs are more fun than my human."
I hope this helps.
Cindy
Question
Hi Ed,
I have a question about my dog but I'm ashamed to be writing this because everyone is writing of problems with Pit Bulls, Germans, etc. Well, I have a little SOB West Highland Terrier. Yep, 20 lbs of sheer terror in my life.
I'll give you some background quickly, he was the only dog for a year and all was wonderful. Then our son wanted a puppy and we researched the breeds, finding a Golden to be great with kids. We bought a little boy and that is when all heck broke out at our house.
The Westie has taken the term alpha just a little too far. We've taken him to trainers but the problem is, when he is alone, he is an angel. It is when he is at home that he is a little "Napoleon". He is rude and pushy, he abuses the golden and just recently, he has taken it one very scary step further. He tried to bite one of our son's friends and broke the skin. The kids were running around and I could tell the Westie was getting upset, but still ... once he is focused on something or someone, he won't even come back when called.
I understand Terriers are bred to kill rodents, so I understand the chasing squirrels, etc. I could live with that but it is the dominance thing that is really difficult. He does almost everything on the list you put on your website .. he is pushy and rude. We always give in to him because he makes the most GOD AWFUL screams when he is ignored. If we try to put him in his kennel or leave him out of the room, he screams and it goes on for hours. The bark collars don't work on his constant yelping and whining. AND NOW, the sweet Golden is starting to make the same noises so obviously the Westie has taught him how to also get his own way with us.
Can you please help us with a place to even start?? I've considered finding a new home for the Westie at least once a month and then I end up feeling bad. When he is being good, he is really really good. But when he is bad, he is evil!
Thanks so much!
Pamala
Answer:
This is 100% a result of how you have lived with this dog. I will also say that it is very very very common because people simply don’t know how strong pack instincts are in their dogs. Your dog lacks pack drive and respect for you as a leader. That part jumps right out of your emails at me.
This can be changed but only if you are willing to get some education on this and then change the way you live with this dog – actually both dogs.
It starts with these DVD’s:
Establishing Pack Structure with the Family Dog
Basic Dog Obedience
Remote Collar Training for the Pet Owner
I don’t know the brand of the bark collar but I can tell you it’s not a Tri Tronic’s. That’s the only brand I use and the only brand I will sell. The rest are crap. Dogs don’t bark through these.
Cindy and I both use a Dogtra 280ncp remote collar when we train our dogs. This collar has a very small receiver (on the dogs neck) in addition to a digital readout on the transmitter. This is critical in fine tuning the low level stimulation we use in the training.
I suggest that you read some of the free eBooks on my web site. Read my philosophy of dog training and The Theory of Correction in Dog Training.
If I had a dog like this is would go through my pack structure program.
It would be trained with markers - (READ THIS !!!) and it would be finished with a remote collar. In the end it would be a different dog.
Kind Regards,
Ed
Question
My daughter has a two year old Siberian husky (female). My daughter has done a great job with the dog and can take food out of its mouth, she chases it so it is not startled, and has never been aggressive. This dog goes to the dog park at least five times per week since they live in Northern Virginia and she does not have a yard.
In two weeks she is getting a roommate that has two dogs that this person rescued. One is 16 years old and the other is 6 years old. Both are of mixed breeds. Both roommates are ICU nurses that work 13 hour days. They are fortunate that they have a townhouse with three floors. I am nervous about the dogs and how they will get along.
They have taken the dogs out together with little problem. But my daughter's dog has lived in the residence for over a year. So this is her domain. In addition, her last roommate was a doctor and he allowed the dog to sleep with him in his room when he was off from work. This room is now going to be off limits to the dog.
My daughter sleeps during the day because she is on night shift. Her dog NEVER barks. I am afraid that the other dogs will encourage this behavior and my daughter will not get any sleep.
I am so concerned,
Please help me to choose the right information to make this a safe environment.
Thank you,
Donna
Answer
I wrote a free eBook title HOW TO INTRODUCE A NEW DOG INTO A HOME WITH OTHER DOGS http://leerburg.com/dogtrainingebooks.htm
To make this seamless they should do the things mentioned in this e-book. Bottom line is they need to learn to use dog crates. If they don’t there will be problems and it’s really not fair for the 16 year old dog because that’s the dog that will lose any fight. The way I look at that kind of a scenario is that’s this move is hard enough on a 16 year old dog (they get set in their ways like we people – so the move will be stressful) how would you like to have to fight someone when you are 85 years old and moved into a nursing home? Not a pretty thought is it?
The bottom line if these women now own a dog pack – three dogs are pa pack. There is going to be a “pack mentality” that exists in this house. If these roommates refuse to establish it the dogs will do it on this own. If they ignore the situation it will happen – only a matter of time and this often involved a dog fight. If they want to learn how to do this correctly they need to realize that they need to make some changes in how they live with these dogs – I would recommend Establishing Pack Structure with the Family Dog http://leerburg.com/308.htm
Up to this point your daughter has made some mistakes (and got lucky) in how she has allowed this dog to live. That’s about to change. There are clear cut inherent rules in a dog pack and we humans had darn well better learn how to mold and control them. Those who refuse to do so need to read my eBook on HOW TO BREAK UP A DOG FIGHT WITOUT GETTING HURT.
Barking is a simple issue to solve – get a Tri-Tronics No Bark Collar. If the other dogs bark they need these too. The problem is solved on the first day.
Good luck!
Kind Regards,
Ed
Question
Hi,
Yesterday I have bought a 2.5 month czechoslovakian wolfdog. I have a 6 months female Husky and she knows that I and my boyfriend are the alpha pair. She never had growled to us, but today, when we gave the food bowl to her, I did something that I always do to her when she is eating: I pet her. She began growling to me and I said no to her. I've continued to pet her and she tried to bite me and same with my boyfriend. She has never done this to us. I think that she is trying to be alpha because the new arrival pup. I need help... What I need to do? I just ignore it and continue to do what I'm doing? Or put on her the prong collar and reprimand her when she growls to me? I'm very concerned with about this behavior.
Thanks,
Sara
Answer
First of all I would read the article we have on the website about how to correctly introduce a new dog into your home.
I would start implementing more structure for your husky, because any time you add a big change to a dog they need reassurance that the rules are the same. Correcting her with a prong would most likely just add anxiety to her at this point, and I think calm leadership and management of her free time would be much more effective.
Please read this article about becoming an effective pack leader.
This article was written for people like yourself, people who have great intentions but not enough knowledge of pack structure. There are links within the article that will take you to other articles on my web site.
Pack structure and how to live with a dog in your home are the very first issues to deal with whenever you add a new dog to your family or have problems with an existing dog. We are taking orders for a new DVD that extensively covers the way Ed and I live with dogs in our home.
With the help of the articles and the DVD, you should be able to work through this as long as you are willing to do the work and put in the time it takes.
I hope this helps.
Cindy
Thank You
Dear Ed,
Thank you for sharing your deep and expansive knowledge of dog training with the world. I recently integrated an adopted dog into my home with two existing German shepherds. I read and re-read your article about integrating a new dog many many times and did my absolute best to follow all of the steps and be super plugged into signs of integration progression. I took my time and now am so thrilled that all three dogs are accepting of the new pack and getting along well. I still take lots of precautionary measures and of course maintain role of pack leader. But just glad I could give a home to the adopted dog (1 year old Australian cattle dog who I knew already from an acquaintance who ended up moving and not able to keep him). And that my shepherds didn't feel out placed by it all.
Thanks again Ed! I don't want to think about what may have happened if I didn't have your white paper on integrating. I would have been very cautious by nature (I also have 5 horses on my property and am a nut about their turnout situations too) but would not have known nearly as much as you outlined.
Kind regards,
Stephanie
Question
Hi-
I have recently adopted a dog that is about 1 year old. Very good dog. I already have a 6 year old dog - very good dog too. The problem I am having is they want to play constantly. Should i be letting them play as much as they want to? Or separate them in different rooms and then give permission to play at certain times? Not sure how to handle this. Neither dog is aggressive or territorial, just want to have to much fun. Any advice? Thanks.
Elizabeth
Answer
We would not do what you’re doing. Our goal is to become our dogs pack leader. This involved the dog going through a leadership program and an obedience program. Even though dogs may come with obedience training they still need to learn to respect and follow our commands. Until a dog accepts us as their pack leader and until a new dog follows our command while under distraction we don’t allow them to interact with our other dogs.
The litmus test is being able to call the dog away from the other dog when they are interacting. If the dog will not leave the 2nd dog then they are not ready to be together.
If you read the free eBook on my web site about how to introduce a new dog into a home with other dogs you will see what we do.
Here are the DVDs that cover this work:
Establishing Pack Structure with the Family Dog
Basic Dog Obedience
Remote Collar Training for the Pet Owner
Kind Regards,
Ed Frawley
Question
Dear Ed,
I have read almost all of your articles and have recently re-read the ones regarding introducing a new dog into a home where there are already pets. I have not seen this question....or answer...
I currently have a 1.5 year old Doberman Pinscher, male, neutered, non-aggressive, well behaved dog. Have had him since I purchased him from a breeder at 12 weeks. He is very active, gets along well with other dogs of both genders, kids, cats, etc...very social, sweet natured dog.
Last week we adopted a 4 year old, spayed, female Greyhound from an adoption group locally. We introduced them as prescribed and had no real problems, then she began being very dominant, aggressive TO HIM! He does NOT fight back, totally submits, but she will not allow him near the water bowls, near us, etc...and he is a nervous wreck. I've read all the stuff regarding the current dog being dominant, but not the NEW dog!
I certainly want to give this girl a fair shake, but not at the expense of my well adjusted, well behaved, and obedient, Dobie. Is it possible that coming off the racing circuit, she just may not ever adapt to being in a two dog home?
Thanks!
Meredith
Answer
I would suggest you read this article http://leerburg.com/introducingdogs.htm
If you just got the new dog last week there is no reason I can think of that she’s interacting with your Doberman, it’s not been nearly long enough to let the new dog have enough freedom to be attacking! when we get a new adult dog it’s weeks and maybe even longer before they are allowed any off leash freedom in the house and most certainly they are not allowed to be loose with our other dogs.
You’ve rushed things, too much freedom much too soon.
Cindy
Question
Hi Ed,
I checked out the other questions as well as read most of the articles on your web site and did not find the specific answer to my concern. I had a quick question. We have a wonderful 3yr old English Lab. She respects us as her pack leaders and is great with our three children (12yr, 9yr and 4yr) as well as any friends or visitors. Our 4yr old brushes her teeth and checks her ears. I can groom her nails etc. and she submits to me....this took work! I was happy to see that we have done most of the things you recommend such as crate training, no laying on the furniture, sit stay command before eating her food, sit/stay while we go down the steps and out the door or car etc. We also have two outdoor cats that she is fine with and even ignores although, when she plays she plays rough with them until they have enough and jump to wear she can't reach them.
The only "problem" we have had is her display of (what I think is) dog aggression however, mild in comparison to some. She will bark and charge the other dog, sometimes her hackles are up and then engage in rough play. She has always been around large dogs and is 70+ lbs herself. My concern is that my brother got my 12yr old daughter a 12 week old Chihuahua puppy for her birthday. I had concerns about this "present." The Chihuahua has only been in our home for two days. We have introduced the dogs (on leash) and it is obvious that our lab wants to "tear it up" with the Chihuahua. She has barked at the Chihuahua and stares at it intently, following it's every move. However, her tail is usually wagging happily and she does not appear to want to "eat" her. My husband and I are always present when the introduction is occurring. After witnessing a couple interactions, I have serious concerns that our lab will kill the Chihuahua. I don't think she would actually try to kill the Chihuahua but because the Chihuahua is so small, I fear that one quick grab or paw from our Lab could fatally injure the Chihuahua. Naturally the Chihuahua freezes with the booming bark but she is not a timid or fearful dog.
Other than telling us that the Chihuahua may not have been a wise choice for our family do you have any suggestions of how to proceed?
Many thanks,
Beth
Answer
I wrote an article (its also in a free eBook form) on my web site titled HOW TO INTORDUCE A NEW DOG INTO A HOME WITH OTHER DOGS.
You need to be very very careful here. Your sweet dog could very well kill this puppy. I have a folder full of emails from people whose dogs have killed other dogs, most are of people whose dogs knew one another.
Frankly if this were my dog, they would not interact. There is no need for this to happen. Put your female in a crate when the other dog is out.
It sounds like you have done a great job in other areas of living with your dog. A few changes and this will be fine too.
Kind Regards,
Ed
Comment
Hi Ed,
I have purchased training tapes in the past and always recommend your site. With this message, I want to specifically thank you for your article on introducing a new dog to your pack. A couple of weeks ago a male intact GSD was brought to my home after being found wandering the streets of Houston to foster until his family could be found. I have three existing dogs - 2 GSD's and a corgi. Although I never left him off leash when my girls were outside I really struggled with him. Initially, I was allowing my alpha bitch to tell him the house rules and of course the corgi was constantly challenging him. Using your resource, I was able to quickly gain control of the situation. As soon as I took control the relief expressed by my girls body language and his was remarkable. The slate was washed clean and focused on my Alpha position.
He stayed with us a week without incidence and we were able to find his owner! YOU SAVED HIS LIFE... had I not had your web site as a resource he would have been taken to the pound as I would not have continued to struggle with the electricity between the dogs and aggressive behavior of him trying to attack or claw his way into our home to get at them.
I have forwarded this article to the local German shepherd rescue group to give out when they are turning dogs over to foster and adoptive homes. The same friend that had dropped "Randy Boy" off at my home had a terrible experience a few months earlier from a dog she agreed to foster for the rescue group which cost her over a $1,000 in vet bills plus one of her dogs loosing his sight in one eye from not having clear instructions about introducing them.
Respectfully,
Barbara
Response
Thanks so much for taking the time to write. I’m glad you found the information on the website helpful and I’m glad the stray dog found his owner.
Cindy